So Who Do We Keep On Defense After This Performance? - Page 2

RINGLEADER · 12-13-2004, 09:58 PM

I think these players return:

Jared Allen (Because he could be REALLY good if he didn't have a statue playing on the opposite side)

Ryan Sims (Because he has a fat contract)

Lionel Dalton (If he can return to his early season form)

Greg Wesley (Because we just re-signed him)

Shaunard Harts (Because he's adequate and he's ours)

Eric Warfield (Because he'd make an OK nickel-back)

Maybe we keep Barber if he comes back from the injury, but I doubt it. We need three starting LBs, a starting DE, and two starting CBs. At least that's how I see it.

beavis · 12-13-2004, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

He seems to be thinking "I can't believe we resigned such a POS player".

I'll believe it when I see it. I've yet to hear him admit that the defense is the source of the problem.

chiefscafan · 12-13-2004, 11:32 PM

ok my two cents

jared allen
lional dalton
saivi
foxx
fujita
barber
wesley (with a better FS maybe ok)
warfield
sims
after that you all can pack your bags

LiL stumppy · 12-13-2004, 11:33 PM

We need a CB,DE,AND LB.

**BigRedChief** · 12-14-2004, 12:19 AM

I'd like to have kept Donnie Edwards.

ChiefsCountry · 12-14-2004, 12:47 AM

DE's
Jared Allen
Jimmy Wilkerson
Gary Stills

DT's
Ryan Sims
Lional Dalton
Junior

LB's
Fujitia
Beisel
Caver
Barber
Fox

CB's
Warfield
Battle
Sapp

S's
Wesley
Pile
Harts

bricks · 12-14-2004, 12:49 AM

Keep Allen, Fujita, Warfield, Wesley, and Dalton. Get 2 LB's, a CB, FS, and a serious DE. As for LB's I think the Chiefs are going to use an excuse like "oh well we got Maz back, and he was our leading captain there, and remember he missed most of the season. Plus, Kawika Mitchell is young and ascending."

Messier · 12-14-2004, 12:56 AM

I think Vonnie is gone Billy Bartee is gone Woods is gone.

Sure to be in the starting lineup next season J. Allen, sims, Barber, Wesley, Warfield. Everything else is up for grabs.

**the Talking Can** · 12-14-2004, 01:00 AM

Besides Dalton and Allen no one should be allowed on the plane.

We have the worst LBs and the Worst CBs in the league.

We need a DE, a DT, 3 LBs, 2 CBs, and 1 safety. Seriously.

Hammock Parties · 12-14-2004, 01:02 AM

Allen
Sims
Dalton

Fujita

Warfield
Harts
Wesley

Ideally we keep Hicks, Browning, Woods and Barber as backups. If we can save money by cutting one or more, do so.

If Mitchell doesn't improve, he is good backup material.

Messier · 12-14-2004, 01:03 AM

I think Barber is the best LB we have. He is starter. He is good.

Hammock Parties · 12-14-2004, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I think Barber is the best LB we have. He is starter. He is good.

Fujita's better, IMO. Barber is weak against the run and barely adequate in coverage. And he's not going to be any better coming of ACL surgery.

bricks · 12-14-2004, 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can

Besides Dalton and Allen no one should be allowed on the plane.

We have the worst LBs and the Worst CBs in the league.

We need a DE, a DT, 3 LBs, 2 CBs, and 1 safety. Seriously.

Yup I concur. Go all out. They might as well since Vermeil and co, have 1-year remaining on their contracts.

DaWolf · 12-14-2004, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by beavis

Exactly. Even if you replace 6 or 7 players, it's not all going to come together in 1 year.

Sure it can, but you need good coaching for it to happen. And I have yet to see good defensive coaching this year...

Rukdafaidas · 12-14-2004, 08:20 AM

Anyone know the details of Wood's and Bartee's contracts? It seems as though it would kill the cap cutting both of these guys, but they need to be cut.

Eleazar · 12-14-2004, 08:32 AM

Allen, Sims, Wesley, Warfield, and Woods has one more year on his deal I believe.

Siavii is too young and has gotten too little playing time to cut loose.

Think Fujita could turn into a good player if we had some talent around him.

12-13-2004, 09:58 PM
RINGLEADER In Search of a Life Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Confusion, USA Casino cash: $8610503	So Who Do We Keep On Defense After This Performance? I think these players return: Jared Allen (Because he could be REALLY good if he didn't have a statue playing on the opposite side) Ryan Sims (Because he has a fat contract) Lionel Dalton (If he can return to his early season form) Greg Wesley (Because we just re-signed him) Shaunard Harts (Because he's adequate and he's ours) Eric Warfield (Because he'd make an OK nickel-back) Maybe we keep Barber if he comes back from the injury, but I doubt it. We need three starting LBs, a starting DE, and two starting CBs. At least that's how I see it.
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12-13-2004, 11:32 PM	#17
chiefscafan Veteran Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: manhattan beach, CA Casino cash: $9688215	ok my two cents jared allen lional dalton saivi foxx fujita barber wesley (with a better FS maybe ok) warfield sims after that you all can pack your bags
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12-13-2004, 11:33 PM	#18
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12-14-2004, 12:47 AM	#20
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12-14-2004, 12:49 AM	#21
bricks Hey Teacher! Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: land of maple syrup Casino cash: $9902559	Keep Allen, Fujita, Warfield, Wesley, and Dalton. Get 2 LB's, a CB, FS, and a serious DE. As for LB's I think the Chiefs are going to use an excuse like "oh well we got Maz back, and he was our leading captain there, and remember he missed most of the season. Plus, Kawika Mitchell is young and ascending."
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12-14-2004, 12:56 AM	#22
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	I think Vonnie is gone Billy Bartee is gone Woods is gone. Sure to be in the starting lineup next season J. Allen, sims, Barber, Wesley, Warfield. Everything else is up for grabs.
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12-14-2004, 01:00 AM	#23
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	Besides Dalton and Allen no one should be allowed on the plane. We have the worst LBs and the Worst CBs in the league. We need a DE, a DT, 3 LBs, 2 CBs, and 1 safety. Seriously. __________________ Clark Hunt: "Thank god for the Dominican pool boy"
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12-14-2004, 01:02 AM	#24
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4710478	Allen Sims Dalton Fujita Warfield Harts Wesley Ideally we keep Hicks, Browning, Woods and Barber as backups. If we can save money by cutting one or more, do so. If Mitchell doesn't improve, he is good backup material. __________________ Chiefs game films
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12-14-2004, 01:03 AM	#25
Messier MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Casino cash: $10005050	I think Barber is the best LB we have. He is starter. He is good.
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Rukdafaidas lifelong Chiefs survivor Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $4839900	Anyone know the details of Wood's and Bartee's contracts? It seems as though it would kill the cap cutting both of these guys, but they need to be cut.
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12-14-2004, 08:32 AM	#30
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Allen, Sims, Wesley, Warfield, and Woods has one more year on his deal I believe. Siavii is too young and has gotten too little playing time to cut loose. Think Fujita could turn into a good player if we had some talent around him.
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