**** OFFICIAL 2013-2014 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread, Part 2 ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#10 (23-8,14-4)

Players

Spoiler!

Returning Players
1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 Jr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 So.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 So.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 So.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Sr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 Jr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS So.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 RS Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 So.

Incoming Class
SF ***** Wayne Selden
C ***** Joel Embiid
PG **** Conner Frankamp
SF **** Brannen Greene
PG **** Frank Mason
SF ***** Andrew Wiggins

Transfers
Hunter Mickelson
Tarik Black

Non Conference

Spoiler!

11/8/2013 Louisiana Monroe Lawrence, Kan. W(80-63) (1-0)
11/12/2013 Duke Chicago, Ill. W(94-83) (2-0)
11/19/2013 Iona Lawrence, Kan. W(86-66) (3-0)
11/22/2013 Towson W(88-58) (4-0)
11/28/2013 Wake Forest Paradise Island, Bahamas W(87-78) (5-0)
11/29/2013 Villanova Paradise Island, Bahamas L(59-63) (5-1)
11/30/2013 UTEP Paradise Island, Bahamas W(67-63) (6-1)
12/7/2013 Colorado Boulder, Colo. L(72-75) (6-2)
12/10/2013 Florida Gainesville, Fla. L(61-67) (6-3)
12/14/2013 New Mexico Kansas City, Mo. W(80-63)(7-3)
12/21/2013 Georgetown Lawrence, Kan. W(86-64)(8-3)
12/30/2013 Toledo Lawrence, Kan. W(93-83)(9-3)
1/5/2014 San Diego State Lawrence, Kan. L(57-61)(9-4)

Conference

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1/8/2014 Oklahoma Norman, Okla. W(90-83)(10-4,1-0)
1/11/2014 Kansas State Lawrence, Kan. W(86-60)(11-4,2-0)
1/13/2014 Iowa State Ames, Iowa W(77-70)(12-4,3-0)
1/18/2014 Oklahoma State Lawrence, Kan. W(80-78)(13-4,4-0)
1/20/2014 Baylor Lawrence, Kan. W(78-68)(14-4,5-0)
1/25/2014 TCU Fort Worth, Texas W(91-69)(15-4,6-0)
1/29/2014 Iowa State Lawrence, Kan. W(92-81)(16-4,7-0)
2/1/2014 Texas Austin, Texas L(69-81)(16-5,7-1)
2/4/2014 Baylor Waco, Texas W(69-52)(17-5,8-1)
2/8/2014 West Virginia Lawrence, Kan. W(83-69)(18-5,9-1)
2/10/2014 Kansas State Manhattan, Kan. L(82-85)(18-6,9-2)
2/15/2014 TCU Lawrence, Kan. W(95-65)(19-6,10-2)
2/18/2014 Texas Tech Lubbock, Texas W(64-63)(20-6,11-2)
2/22/2014 Texas Lawrence, Kan. W(85-54)(21-6,12-2)
2/24/2014 Oklahoma Lawrence, Kan. W(83-75)(22-6,13-2)
3/1/2014 Oklahoma State Stillwater, Okla. L(65-72)(22-7,13-3)
3/5/2014 Texas Tech Lawrence, Kan. W(82-57)(23-7,14-3)
3/8/2014 West Virginia Morgantown, W. Va. L(86-92)(23-8,14-4)

Big 12 Championship
3/13/2014 Texas Tech/Oklahoma State Kansas City, Mo. 2PM ESPN2

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Didn't say it did, but any additional call you can get from exaggeration adds up over the course of a game and season.

I think the whole point is that there is a huge difference between exaggeration during the means of actually playing the game of basketball, which most people wouldn't have as big a problem with... Vs. complete and utter faking in a non-basketball related way.

Marcus Smart is very good, in fact I love watching him when he actually plays the game... he has incredible feet, coordination, strength, timing, feel, and determination. Those are undeniable... but he uses tactics outside of basketball that take away from the entire game of basketball, making it less enjoyable. I am a huge soccer fan, and absolutely detest players like Luis Suarez. He's one of the best players in all of soccer, yet takes away from the game with his antics. It gets to the point of embarrassing for the player with the constant stupidities.

[Ceej]

I think this Marcus Smart debate needs to end.

We'll never convince KCC, and he will never convince us.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Ceej

I think this Marcus Smart debate needs to end.

We'll never convince KCC, and he will never convince us.

oh, there's really no convincing to it. He's simply trolling.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Ceej

You indirectly said it did. You're reaching.

Didn't do anything of the sort. There was no specification about any particular game.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Zeke

I think the whole point is that there is a huge difference between exaggeration during the means of actually playing the game of basketball, which most people wouldn't have as big a problem with... Vs. complete and utter faking in a non-basketball related way.

Marcus Smart is very good, in fact I love watching him when he actually plays the game... he has incredible feet, coordination, strength, timing, feel, and determination. Those are undeniable... but he uses tactics outside of basketball that take away from the entire game of basketball, making it less enjoyable. I am a huge soccer fan, and absolutely detest players like Luis Suarez. He's one of the best players in all of soccer, yet takes away from the game with his antics. It gets to the point of embarrassing for the player with the constant stupidities.

Differentiate however you want between minor exaggeration or full on flop and rolls, but if it gets calls, he's going to keep doing it. Until they start calling a diving foul to stop it, he has no incentive not to do it. And his team will be better off for it.

As for Suarez, he does the same thing because he's playing a game where diving pays off on the whole. I'm not a huge soccer fan, but I do like watching him play when he's on. His antics are entertaining.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Zeke

oh, there's really no convincing to it. He's simply trolling.

Of course I'm not the one who keeps bringing up Marcus Smart in this thread a week and a half after KU last played him. He apparently has a hold on a few people here.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Of course I'm not the one who keeps bringing up Marcus Smart in this thread a week and a half after KU last played him. He apparently has a hold on a few people here.

It's basketball discussion in a thread regarding one of the conferences best and most controversial players. I don't find that far-fetched at all. Is it required we talk more about naadir getting hit in the side of the head by a pass, instead?

[Bambi]

From what I can tell a single school has never got two in a row... Until now that is

Future Jayhawk Cliff Alexander named Naismith High School Player of Year

[Prison Bitch]

Perry better hope we don't sign Myles Turner, or else he's headed to Pinetown.

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Perry better hope we don't sign Myles Turner, or else he's headed to Pinetown.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Just ignore it and move on.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Embiid's reaction after getting hit in the head earlier this year was to do the very same. Total reflex action, neither of them thought about it.

No.

You describe flopping as stupid because you hate him with every fiber of your being. In reality, those are just things that (on the whole) help his team win.

Wait, you think I hate flopping just because of Smart? Come the **** on, dude. I hate flopping when anyone does it in any sport. I don't "hate him with every fiber" of my being. I don't think I'm capable of hating anyone that much, let alone someone I don't know. I hate his flopping because he's better than that. You just ascribe such emotion to me because you can't fathom how someone doesn't like a player who plays against the spirit of the game regardless of how good he is. So, yeah, **** that guy. I hate him in a sports context. I think he's an immature punk. But lots of kids are, and he's certainly a kid. Outside of that, I don't really give a ****. But being that every discussion about him has been in a sports context, given that we are on a sports message board, I figured that was just obvious. Apparently not.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

As for Suarez, he does the same thing because he's playing a game where diving pays off on the whole. I'm not a huge soccer fan, but I do like watching him play when he's on. His antics are entertaining.

No surprise you enjoy watching the antics of a guy who BIT THE OPPOSING PLAYER. IN MORE THAN ONE GAME.

**** Suarez, too. Phenomenal talent, but he's a racist prick to boot. That's far more inexcusable, because his racism runs to the core of who he is at this point in his life.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You describe flopping as stupid because you hate him with every fiber of your being. In reality, those are just things that (on the whole) help his team win.

[Bearcat]

At least try to understand where the other side is coming from. I think the points of 'doing everything to win,' etc; are generally understood from those who hate Smart, even if we think it's crap.

Saying people hate flopping because they hate Smart is basically saying you haven't even tried to understand the argument that's been presented over and over and over, which means your love for him is clouding your mind, not the other way around.