More WPI questionable behavior

[The Bad Guy]

I find it hilarious that Claythan tonight decides to write a story about Pioli possibly getting NE closure before accepting the Chiefs job..

(and no, I didn't read it, but saw the first paragraph)

Didn't a poster on Arrowhead Pride post this information? Did you cite him?

Do you enjoy basically stealing other people's ideas for stories?

You also might try citing the direct source instead of saying "A recent report.." instead of attributing the information to Adam Schefter about the GM candiates.

I'm sure you'll pull the "Nick is talking to his sources" bullshit about this one, but if anyone ever did this to WPI, you'd be calling all your fake lawyers at scout.com.

What ****ing trash.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by luv

You know what I think is ironic? Everyone on here knocks the WPI articles, yet a lot of people seem to go there to read them.

I didn't go over there to read them. I will browse Chiefs message boards to see if new links of information will be posted. I saw Gobundle of sticks posted something that looked very similar to the post Lanier63 made, clicked the thread and saw the blurb.

I've never once read a WPI article off their site.

[Brock]

WPI is PFT without journalistic creds or integrity.

[boogblaster]

Go Boy steals info.. sells it for sexuall favor from Dan Deerdork ..

[alanm]

Originally Posted by J Diddy

Being banned from wpi is like getting kicked out of the chess club because you got laid.

Lord knows, don't take offense to it.
Wear it like a badge of honor.

The chess club statement made me laugh.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Brock

WPI is PFT without journalistic creds or integrity.

WPI in their wildest dreams couldn't shine PFT's shoes.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by bowener

True. He just banned me from WPI for warning people about them stealing from another person. That is kind of like being kicked out of Nazi Germany.

I sent out PM too, but they will fall on deaf ears to the brain washed.

I've been a memeber of WI and the Orange Mane for years and I've never been banned. Of course I rarely visit either site but I manage to not be an ass when I do visit.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Didn't a poster on Arrowhead Pride post this information? Did you cite him?

Do you enjoy basically stealing other people's ideas for stories?

You also might try citing the direct source instead of saying "A recent report.." instead of attributing the information to Adam Schefter about the GM candiates.

I haven't read the article in question, or the alleged source material, so someone give me a recap. Is he really plagiarizing? Does he take the source material word for word, yes or no?

As a journalist, working for either an Associated Press newspaper or an NBC affiliate for the past 10 years, I can speak with a fair amount of authority on this subject. To refer to "media reports" without actually naming the source is perfectly acceptable.

You don't have to cite every source, you have to acknowledge that it's not your own thoughts.

And stealing story ideas? Give me a ****ing break. Media outlets coupy story "ideas" day in and day out. If Yahoo breaks the news that Chiefs founder Lamar Hunt rises from the grave, and ESPN does a story on it four hours later, did they steal the idea? **** that.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

I haven't read the article in question, or the alleged source material, so someone give me a recap. Is he really plagiarizing? Does he take the source material word for word, yes or no?

As a journalist, working in for either an Associated Press newspaper or an NBC affiliate for the past 10 years, I can speak with a fair amount of authority on this subject. To refer to "media reports" without actually naming the source is perfectly acceptable. Get over it.

There was a poster on Arrowhead Pride that posted information yesterday afternoon where Pioli wasn't accepting the job yet because he had to take care of things with the Patriots.

I don't care if he didn't write word for word what the poster did, he took someone else's material and pushed it off as his own.

You put "media reports" when you are competing with the other site. Does Claythan really think he's competing with Adam Schefter? It's very, very poor form.

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

There was a poster on Arrowhead Pride that posted information yesterday afternoon where Pioli wasn't accepting the job yet because he had to take care of things with the Patriots.

I don't care if he didn't write word for word what the poster did, he took someone else's material and pushed it off as his own.

You put "media reports" when you are competing with the other site. Does Claythan really think he's competing with Adam Schefter? It's very, very poor form.

I will agree with you 100 percent that most of what comes out of WPI is garbage (which is actually a lot better than the shit that came out of there a year ago). I wouldn't pay for it, and I'd readily call anyone who did a friggin' moron.

Further, I've gone on record and stick to it that while Clayton is a decent columnist (he has a lot of work to do to get good, but there's a good amount of talent there), he's a HORRIBLE journalist.

All that said, he did nothing wrong. In this particular instance, he might have done himself, his readers and WPI's website better by writing an intro paragraph and linking to Schefter's article, but the fact is from a news ethics standpoint, he is not in the wrong.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy!

I will agree with you 100 percent that most of what comes out of WPI is garbage (which is actually a lot better than the shit that came out of there a year ago). I wouldn't pay for it, and I'd readily call anyone who did a friggin' moron.

Further, I've gone on record and stick to it that while Clayton is a decent columnist (he has a lot of work to do to get good, but there's a good amount of talent there), he's a HORRIBLE journalist.

All that said, he did nothing wrong. In this particular instance, he might have done himself, his readers and WPI's website better by writing an intro paragraph and linking to Schefter's article, but the fact is from a news ethics standpoint, he is not in the wrong.

So you think it's good form ripping off someone else's information but saying it's your own?

Never once did he credit Lanier63.

[Fat Elvis]

Considering both Schefter's and Arrowhead Pride's material are copyrighted, there are legitimate grounds for a lawsuit....

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

Considering both Schefter's and Arrowhead Pride's material are copyrighted, there are legitimate grounds for a lawsuit....

Schefter he'd be able to get away with because he said various reports.

All I know is when people were posting articles over here from WPI, Claythan got his ****ing thong bunched.

I'd love to see what those ****ing losers would do if someone took their information and called it their own.

[chiefforlife]

I have read both, I dont see what the big deal is.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by cfl

I have read both, I dont see what the big deal is.

So if you posted information about something, and someone, who charges for access to their articles tried to pass it off on their own, it wouldn't be a big deal?

[Fire Me Boy!]

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

So you think it's good form ripping off someone else's information but saying it's your own?

Never once did he credit Lanier63.

He's not passing it off as his own, he's crediting other reports, which is all he's obligated to do.

I agreed that I thought both he and his readers would be better served to have gone about it in a different way, which indicates that I agree he could have used better "form," but it doesn't change the fact that he didn't do anything wrong.

Frankly, if I were writing the story and I chose to go the route he did, I would have left my byline off the article. But then, if it'd been my website or the people working under me in my department, I would have rather we written a preview paragraph and linked to the article, in this instance using our news site as an aggregator of sorts, unless the source were my direct competition.