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Old 01-04-2017, 06:15 PM  
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Building a house

So the S/O and I are looking into buying a nice plot of land and building a home. We have discussed having a basement- sub-basement combination. I know having the basement dug out is an additional cost what I'm really curious about is having to dig deeper to accommodate a sub basement is that going to cost double what just a basement would cost or? I know a lot of factors go into digging out a basement (type of soil and depth of bedrock/water table) but assuming perfect conditions.

Anyone with knowledge on this subject? Anyone ever done this before or currently have a sub-basement? TIA.
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:16 PM   #76
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He's currently playing the policeman in the Village People.

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Old 01-04-2017, 11:17 PM   #77
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:30 PM   #78
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Btw, cool that you "enforce the law" for your job. What is it you do if you dont mind me asking? Im actually studying criminal justice and get one of my degrees at the end of this year lol.
Uniform, badge and gun. Drive a really fast car that lights up like a Christmas tree.
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:45 PM   #79
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:45 PM   #80
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Uniform, badge and gun. Drive a really fast car that lights up like a Christmas tree.
Can't be a crown royal then haha!
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Ppppffffttt Miami? Amateurs. St. Pete.

Google what our mayor has been doing to get gays to move here. You can get a 2200 sq. Ft. House and live 15 minutes from the beach in a good neighborhood for about $325k. The rest of cost of living expenses is no different from Missouri.

And no state taxes. That's a 6% raise from Missouri anyway.
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Old 01-04-2017, 11:54 PM   #82
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:04 AM   #83
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:06 AM   #84
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In Colorado?

I've built a house in the past couple of years and spent a couple of summers building outside Denver.

All of the houses we built required blasting to make the foundation holes. I could dig footers with pick axe etc.


My opinion is it would be more cost effective to consider an inside vault. Depending on the floor plan you can dig it under the garage, built a ceiling structure and pour the ceiling before the floor and concrete the walls. You can add a vault/storm door for 2500-6500 depending on brand.

That will give you the space to do the things you mentioned and I think would be easier on the pocket book.
Im intrigued.
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Old 01-05-2017, 12:25 AM   #85
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How cop cars are usually crown royals or crown victoria's and I watched a Challenger burn one of them in .5 seconds lol..

So what im saying is the fast car that lights up like christmas trees must be one of those cop mustang cars lol
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Old 01-05-2017, 01:09 AM   #86
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How cop cars are usually crown royals or crown victoria's and I watched a Challenger burn one of them in .5 seconds lol..

So what im saying is the fast car that lights up like christmas trees must be one of those cop mustang cars lol
Crown Vic is what you're thinking of. I drive an exploder.
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Im intrigued.

It's fairly common at least in the Midwest.

One method is to dig and when they pour the basement, you pour an additional wall with a door entry and an additional wall under they front porch. Then they'll pour the cap(reinforced with mesh and or extra rebar). This method gives you that cool storage, storm shelter and or vault without losing your interiors basement floor space if you are finishing it.

Some people do this under the garage. Some will pour concrete into thick walls on the interior, brace the ceiling and pour that, just under where the floor joists height would be.

There are several options for reinforced vault/storm doors. My preference would be a door that swims into the vault. Why? Because if a storm flattens your house, you can still open the door for air, or to dig yourself out.

Moisture can be an issue so I advise 2 other things. Install a floor drain so you can run a dehumidifier if needed(for guns mostly). I would make sure there is adequate insulation on any exterior wall or ceiling. I know people who have used the insulated foam forms for the basement walls..you're already insulated, they burn/melt channels into the foam for wiring etc...and they have embedded plastic tabs that drywall and wall coverings can be screwed to,..it's a good option for some.

Others choose spray foam, which is what I did.

Know what door you're using before hand with dimensions and they'll pour the door opening that size, and then they will just drill and lag bolt the vault door in place.
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