Chiefs Eric Berry - Page 11

Titty Meat · 10-09-2014, 12:36 PM

We know what it's going to cost to keep him. Question is he worth the money? Has this defense missed him?

I think there's a noticeable difference without Berry against the run. The pass defense looks similar though.

For a team in cap trouble I don't think Berry is a must re-sign guy.

**BossChief** · 10-09-2014, 09:05 PM

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Earl Thomas is overrated.

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We had this argument months ago and I thought we put it to rest.

I don't remember the exact stats but Earl Thomas only averaged like 1.2 more INTs per season than Berry while Berry has notched FAR more sacks and tackles for loss.

Thomas has 15 picks

Berry has 8

OldSchool · 10-09-2014, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

We'll get him for that. He wants to be here. He's not going to pull a Houston on us. And no one can really blame Houston for not wanting to be here. It's been fairly ****ed up around here long before he showed up, and I doubt the dude is satisfied with Mosaic every weekend.

Wouldn't be surprised one bit if Houston decides to pull an Albert.

"Overpay me or I walk."

Dorsey's response: "Oh, so franchise tag?"

**BossChief** · 10-09-2014, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts

We'll get him for that. He wants to be here. He's not going to pull a Houston on us. And no one can really blame Houston for not wanting to be here. It's been fairly ****ed up around here long before he showed up, and I doubt the dude is satisfied with Mosaic every weekend.

Berry is already filthy Rich...Houston is still very hungry.

Also, Houston is a FAR BETTER OLB than Berry is a safety.

Jmo

Urc Burry · 10-09-2014, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Thomas has 15 picks

Berry has 8

15 in 4 years

8 in 3 years

One of them plays centerfield and the other spends a lot of time in the box. I'm not arguing who's better in coverage.. It's obviously Thomas. But berry brings a lot more to the table

**BossChief** · 10-09-2014, 09:11 PM

Berry:

5.5 sacks
8 ints
3 forced fumbles

For him to be worthy of something over 9-10 per year, he should have a season with those stats...not those being his career stats for a guy in his 5th year and being hurt.

I love watching him play and it would suck to lose him, but it wouldn't be the end of the world if the money was used appropriately...not like giving it all to a backup QB, JAG TE and a punter...know what I'm saying

**BossChief** · 10-09-2014, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

15 in 4 years

8 in 3 years

One of them plays centerfield and the other spends a lot of time in the box. I'm not arguing who's better in coverage.. It's obviously Thomas. But berry brings a lot more to the table

They were drafted the same year...trying to throw out years Berry has lost/is losing to injury is just silly.

I'd pay Thomas 10 a year without blinking while I'd be reluctant to offer Berry 8.

This is a passing league and in this division, playmakers in the secondary are worth far more than box safeties.

Just trying to be objective and leave the emotions out of it.

jd1020 · 10-09-2014, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

They were drafted the same year...trying to throw out years Berry has lost/is losing to injury is just silly.

I'd pay Thomas 10 a year without blinking while I'd be reluctant to offer Berry 8.

It's silly to not count the year Stevie Johnson decided to **** Berry's knee up against him? Ok...

OldSchool · 10-09-2014, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

15 in 4 years

8 in 3 years

One of them plays centerfield and the other spends a lot of time in the box. I'm not arguing who's better in coverage.. It's obviously Thomas. But berry brings a lot more to the table

Thomas can do a lot of the same things that Berry does. But can Berry play CF as effectively as Thomas can?

**BossChief** · 10-09-2014, 09:18 PM

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It's silly to not count the year Stevie Johnson decided to **** Berry's knee up against him? Ok...

If we are talking about giving a big contract to a player...missing as many games to injury as Berry has should be a major factor.

Would you give Berry 10/yr?

I wouldn't unless he is taking the ball away...sorry, but he doesn't do that enough.

Urc Burry · 10-09-2014, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Thomas can do a lot of the same things that Berry does. But can Berry play CF as effectively as Thomas can?

Seriously? You think Thomas could jump in the box and we wouldn't miss a beat? And no, Berry can't touch Thomas in the centerfield. No one in the league can. But that doesn't mean Berry wouldn't be worth the contract. He is the best SS in the league.

Urc Burry · 10-09-2014, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If we are talking about giving a big contract to a player...missing as many games to injury as Berry has should be a major factor.

Would you give Berry 10/yr?

I wouldn't unless he is taking the ball away...sorry, but he doesn't do that.

You act like Thomas averages 7 picks a year. It's literally one more per year than Berry

jd1020 · 10-09-2014, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

If we are talking about giving a big contract to a player...missing as many games to injury as Berry has should be a major factor.

I don't think any rational person would count the Stevie Johnson year against him, especially after he came back and was an All-Pro.

I'd give him 9/yr and not think twice about it. There's a ****ing reason he's 2nd behind Earl Thomas on damn near every list of Safeties.

**BossChief** · 10-09-2014, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

You act like Thomas averages 7 picks a year. It's literally one more per year than Berry

Thomas has 15 and Berry has 8. Try to do math on earth...ok?

OldSchool · 10-09-2014, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Urc Burry

Seriously? You think Thomas could jump in the box and we wouldn't miss a beat? And no, Berry can't touch Thomas in the centerfield. No one in the league can. But that doesn't mean Berry wouldn't be worth the contract. He is the best SS in the league.

Yes. Thomas has phenomenal instincts, is a great tackler, and his athleticism is more than on par with Berry's.

**BossChief** · 10-09-2014, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

I don't think any rational person would count the Stevie Johnson year against him, especially after he came back and was an All-Pro.

I'd give him 9/yr and not think twice about it. There's a ****ing reason he's 2nd behind Earl Thomas on damn near every list of Safeties.

I wouldn't be mad if they gave him 9/yr...I just don't think he's worth that much.

He is a box safety that is bordering on injury prone.

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