Chiefs Schefter joining the party about the qb situation... - Page 2

**The Bad Guy** · 08:07 AM

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-26-2012, 11:05 AM

Spread the news by all means possible.

Oz_Chief · 10-26-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

It is the not even trying part that gets to me.
If they took a 1st round qb and it didn't workout I beleive most here would be ok with that as long as they kept trying until we get our guy.

Totally agree. Draft a probable winner. Try again if it does not work. It is all part of the game.

TEX · 10-26-2012, 11:31 AM

Year 4 of Pioli...

ChiefsCountry · 10-26-2012, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Pathetic....

Doug Hudson in the seventh round in 1987; Danny McManus in the 11th round in 1988; Mike Elkins in the second round in 1989; Matt Blundin in the second round in 1992; Steve Matthews in the seventh round in 1994; Steve Stenstrom in the fourth round in 1995; Pat Barnes in the fourth round in 1997; James Kilian in the seventh round in 2005; Brodie Croyle in the third round in 2006; and Stanzi in the fifth round in 2011

To be fair to Carl, the 90's pretty much sucked major donkey dick when it came to quarterbacks in the NFL in general. Its why Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson and 100 year old John Elway won Super Bowls in the last part of the decade and early 2000s.

Carl really did want a quarterback and would have took him in the first round, but the trouble was he wouldn't commit to the NFL since he was also a NBA first rounder. Charlie Ward would have sat behind Montana and then took over. Ward was the quarterback of today in the early 90s. Just think the Chiefs could have been ahead of the curve for once.

Ace Gunner · 10-26-2012, 01:20 PM

Carl Peterson. Bravo.

**RealSNR** · 10-26-2012, 01:24 PM

Reading this stuff from the national media just pisses me off more than ****ing ever.

The fans are owed a public apology for this shit farce from both Carl Peterson AND Scott Pioli. Unfortunately that's something we will never get.

**** this franchise. **** them.

**RealSNR** · 10-26-2012, 01:25 PM

Pat Barnes 1997
James Killian 2005

We didn't draft a single ****ing QB ONCE in 8 years. Not even a ****ing shit ass 7th round year-one training camp cut.

**** you, Carl.

Ace Gunner · 10-26-2012, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Reading this stuff from the national media just pisses me off more than ****ing ever.

The fans are owed a public apology for this shit farce from both Carl Peterson AND Scott Pioli. Unfortunately that's something we will never get.

**** this franchise. **** them.

This is on the ownership.

**RealSNR** · 10-26-2012, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Lou_Zare

This is on the ownership.

Lamar can't get an apology out to us.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-26-2012, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Pat Barnes 1997
James Killian 2005

We didn't draft a single ****ing QB ONCE in 8 years. Not even a ****ing shit ass 7th round year-one training camp cut.

**** you, Carl.

Given their draft positions over the year, who should they have drafted and who would have made a difference?

The posts are long gone but back in 2001, I was heavily in favor of Drew Brees with the #12 overall pick. I have a good friend that played D-I football as a CB that was at Purdue at the time working towards his MBA and we'd talk about Brees frequently. He thought he was going to be a stellar NFL QB, and apparently, he was right.

But other than Brees, I can't remember wanting a QB during most of Carl's tenure. I was happy with DeBerg, Montana, Bono, Grbac and Gannon before Green came to town. I didn't like Dave Krieg and apparently, Carl & Marty didn't, either.

All of those guys were good enough to win a Super Bowl at that time but unfortunately, the Chiefs lacked the major component necessary in the 90's: A great or Hall of Fame running back.

Ace Gunner · 10-26-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Lamar can't get an apology out to us.

And so, what has changed since Lamar's death?

ChiefsCountry · 10-26-2012, 01:39 PM

From 1997 to 2005, we were pretty much set at backup quarterback as well. 1997 we had Gannon and Pat Barnes. Cut Barnes in 1998 for Todd Collins. Signed Warren Moon in 99 to replace Gannon, same in 2000. Then we traded for Green in 2001. Jonathan Quinn and Damon Huard were the third stringers until 2005. It would have been nice to take a flyer on a quarterback late but we were pretty solid on the depth chart.

lcarus · 10-26-2012, 01:41 PM

Trent Green is a ****ing rockstar compared to every QB the Chiefs have had in my lifetime not named Joe Montana.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-26-2012, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

Trent Green is a ****ing rockstar compared to every QB the Chiefs have had in my lifetime not named Joe Montana.

Or Dawson..

Jeez...how utterly sad and pathetic we are.

**RealSNR** · 10-26-2012, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Given their draft positions over the year, who should they have drafted and who would have made a difference?

The posts are long gone but back in 2001, I was heavily in favor of Drew Brees with the #12 overall pick. I have a good friend that played D-I football as a CB that was at Purdue at the time working towards his MBA and we'd talk about Brees frequently. He thought he was going to be a stellar NFL QB, and apparently, he was right.

But other than Brees, I can't remember wanting a QB during most of Carl's tenure. I was happy with DeBerg, Montana, Bono, Grbac and Gannon before Green came to town. I didn't like Dave Krieg and apparently, Carl & Marty didn't, either.

All of those guys were good enough to win a Super Bowl at that time but unfortunately, the Chiefs lacked the major component necessary in the 90's: A great or Hall of Fame running back.

Draft position is irrelevant. In eight years not ONE SINGLE QB was drafted. Not just first or second rounders. Not a single QB. Not one. It's almost like we acquired Trent Green and then Carl Peterson said, "Well, there's our QB for the next 5 years at least! Guess we don't have to do shit about the position until then!"

Most of the blame for that rests on Gunther Cunningham, I think, who not only said, "We'll stick with Grbac over Gannon, thank you very much" but then didn't bother with shit, believing that Elvis Grbac was totally adequate and good enough to lead his team. Remember, the season before Marty benched Grbac for sucking too much ass. That would be like the Chiefs getting a new coach who said, "Yeah... let's just tweak the roster a bit and roll with Matt. He's good enough to protect the football and win us a few games."

1999 was Gunther's first year, and that was also the supposed "year of the QB". The Chiefs missed out on the first four guys, but you can't tell me they didn't have an extremely glaring need at the position. A trade up from the 14th to the 10th pick or something like that would have been absolutely feasible to nab Daunte Culpepper. Instead, we got John ****ing Tait.

That kind of complacency is ****ing inexcusable.

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