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**DaFace** · 10-22-2009, 04:41 PM

So that's fun.

Not much info other than the fact that we can't go out the front door. Weird.

**Rain Man** · 02-09-2011, 11:37 AM

Update on the murder in our office building. As expected, it's linked back to Josh McDaniels. You know the restaurant owner was betting on the Broncos and saying stuff like, "They no need Cutler. Orton good. And Brandon Marshall bad. McDaniels turning this team around."

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...124?source=rss

Gambling led to 16th Street Mall shooting, defense says
By Jessica Fender
The Denver Post
POSTED: 02/08/2011 03:25:29 PM MST
UPDATED: 02/08/2011 06:44:07 PM MST

A hefty gambling debt led to the 2009 confrontation in a restaurant just off the 16th Street Mall that left one man dead and the proprietor accused of murder in the first degree, jurors heard this morning.

Restaurateur Yan "Dave" De Yang, 41, owed "thousands and thousands" to an acquaintance of the victim and another man dispatched that Thursday afternoon to Chopsticks & Sushi to collect a $500 weekly payment, according to Yang's attorney

By the time the fight was over, Lloyd Running Bear not only had three bullet holes in his stomach, but took two very close-range shots in the back, prosecutors said in opening statements aimed at countering Yang's claim of self defense. They said the two shots to the back killed Running Bear.

Defense attorney Jud Lohnes pointed out that Running Bear was choking the diminutive Yang when he fired the first shots at a man who towered over him.

"He had to make a split second decision," Lohnes said. "All he could see was Lloyd Running Bear's chest in front of him. He fired five times in rapid succession. It was a human response based on adrenhaline and fear."

Chopsticks employees told police investigating the Oct. 22, 2009 killing that Yang shot downward at Running Bear and had shouted "do not intimidate me" before the fight escalated.

The shooting was the latest in a series of confrontations stemming from Yang's bad football bets.

Lohnes said Running Bear called Yang and threatened to kill him.

Running Bear, Mahesh Hingorani and his uncle Nand "Nick" Hingorani, to whom the money was owed, paid Yang a visit at the now-closed restaurant the week before the shooting, prompting a 9-1-1 call to police.

In that call, Yang called the three men "animals" and threatened to shoot them if they returned, said prosecutor Isabel Pallares.

"He said ... 'I can shoot them down, okay? I'm not an easy guy, okay,'" Pallares said.

A search of court records shows Yang was convicted on a domestic violence-related charge in 2009 in Adams County.

The defense focused on the 5-foot-2-inch Yang's small size. Running Bear stood nearly a foot taller and weighed 100 pounds more.

Lohnes argued Running Bear himself was a deadly and "loaded" weapon. An autopsy found meth, cocaine and high levels of alcohol in his blood.

But the defense's presentation also countered Yang's earliest statements to the police, where he claimed Running Bear was a former patron booted from the restaurant and back for revenge.

The police investigation into the shooting could also be called into question. Lohnes said investigators failed to secure the scene, take notes in some instances and that a break-in at the restaurant might have harmed evidence.

kstater · 02-09-2011, 11:38 AM

Dave

kstater · 02-09-2011, 11:39 AM

Wait, Lloyd Running Bear?

**Bowser** · 02-09-2011, 11:40 AM

I wonder if R8ers was involved somehow?

**Rain Man** · 02-09-2011, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kstater

Wait, Lloyd Running Bear?

Friend of yours?

**Donger** · 02-09-2011, 11:42 AM

If he was named Lloyd Ducking Bear, he'd be fine now.

Frazod · 02-09-2011, 11:44 AM

Degenerate gambler whacks loanshark's goon. That's awesome.

**DeezNutz** · 02-09-2011, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Chopsticks employees told police investigating the Oct. 22, 2009 killing that Yang shot downward at Running Bear and had shouted "do not intimidate me" before the fight escalated.

Yeah, I doubt that was the exact quotation from "Dave."

HonestChieffan · 02-09-2011, 11:49 AM

I had no idea Dave in Chinese was Yan. Learn something ever day.

Otter · 02-09-2011, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Update on the murder in our office building. As expected, it's linked back to Josh McDaniels. You know the restaurant owner was betting on the Broncos and saying stuff like, "They no need Cutler. Orton good. And Brandon Marshall bad. McDaniels turning this team around."

http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...124?source=rss

Gambling led to 16th Street Mall shooting, defense says
By Jessica Fender
The Denver Post
POSTED: 02/08/2011 03:25:29 PM MST
UPDATED: 02/08/2011 06:44:07 PM MST

A hefty gambling debt led to the 2009 confrontation in a restaurant just off the 16th Street Mall that left one man dead and the proprietor accused of murder in the first degree, jurors heard ...

Sounds like a Tarantino skit with the awesome nicknames of a mob thriller and the diversity to reach all audiences to boot.

Where do I buy the rights to this story?

patteeu · 02-09-2011, 11:53 AM

I'm sympathetic with the shooter. When you get into a fight with a guy who is a foot taller than you, is 100 pounds heavier than you, is hyped up on drugs, and has threatened to kill you, you mess around at your own risk. Once the violence starts you should finish it as definitively as possible rather than hoping the guy backs down after you pull your gun or wing him with the first shot. He'd like to have me on his jury.

**Iowanian** · 02-09-2011, 11:55 AM

"He said ... 'I can shoot them down, okay? I'm not an easy guy, okay,'" Pallares said.

Hooooooooooock!

I guess this explains the absense of skinsbra

Frazod · 02-09-2011, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

I'm sympathetic with the shooter. When you get into a fight with a guy who is a foot taller than you, is 100 pounds heavier than you, is hyped up on drugs, and has threatened to kill you, you mess around at your own risk. Once the violence starts you should finish it as definitively as possible rather than hoping the guy backs down after you pull your gun or wing him with the first shot. He'd like to have me on his jury.

I don't have sympathy for anybody involved. The shooter brought everything on himself by being a degenerate gambler who willingly involved himself in the world of bookies and their thug collectors. It's not like Big Chief Goomba went there to kick his ass over crappy pot stickers.

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Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3288491 VARSITY	Update on the murder in our office building. As expected, it's linked back to Josh McDaniels. You know the restaurant owner was betting on the Broncos and saying stuff like, "They no need Cutler. Orton good. And Brandon Marshall bad. McDaniels turning this team around." http://www.denverpost.com/breakingne...124?source=rss Gambling led to 16th Street Mall shooting, defense says By Jessica Fender The Denver Post POSTED: 02/08/2011 03:25:29 PM MST UPDATED: 02/08/2011 06:44:07 PM MST A hefty gambling debt led to the 2009 confrontation in a restaurant just off the 16th Street Mall that left one man dead and the proprietor accused of murder in the first degree, jurors heard this morning. Restaurateur Yan "Dave" De Yang, 41, owed "thousands and thousands" to an acquaintance of the victim and another man dispatched that Thursday afternoon to Chopsticks & Sushi to collect a $500 weekly payment, according to Yang's attorney By the time the fight was over, Lloyd Running Bear not only had three bullet holes in his stomach, but took two very close-range shots in the back, prosecutors said in opening statements aimed at countering Yang's claim of self defense. They said the two shots to the back killed Running Bear. Defense attorney Jud Lohnes pointed out that Running Bear was choking the diminutive Yang when he fired the first shots at a man who towered over him. "He had to make a split second decision," Lohnes said. "All he could see was Lloyd Running Bear's chest in front of him. He fired five times in rapid succession. It was a human response based on adrenhaline and fear." Chopsticks employees told police investigating the Oct. 22, 2009 killing that Yang shot downward at Running Bear and had shouted "do not intimidate me" before the fight escalated. The shooting was the latest in a series of confrontations stemming from Yang's bad football bets. Lohnes said Running Bear called Yang and threatened to kill him. Running Bear, Mahesh Hingorani and his uncle Nand "Nick" Hingorani, to whom the money was owed, paid Yang a visit at the now-closed restaurant the week before the shooting, prompting a 9-1-1 call to police. In that call, Yang called the three men "animals" and threatened to shoot them if they returned, said prosecutor Isabel Pallares. "He said ... 'I can shoot them down, okay? I'm not an easy guy, okay,'" Pallares said. A search of court records shows Yang was convicted on a domestic violence-related charge in 2009 in Adams County. The defense focused on the 5-foot-2-inch Yang's small size. Running Bear stood nearly a foot taller and weighed 100 pounds more. Lohnes argued Running Bear himself was a deadly and "loaded" weapon. An autopsy found meth, cocaine and high levels of alcohol in his blood. But the defense's presentation also countered Yang's earliest statements to the police, where he claimed Running Bear was a former patron booted from the restaurant and back for revenge. The police investigation into the shooting could also be called into question. Lohnes said investigators failed to secure the scene, take notes in some instances and that a break-in at the restaurant might have harmed evidence. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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