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**HemiEd** · 12:48 PM

Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration

Anyone else been following this story? They had a pretty graphic show on nightline about it last night.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479

Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars."

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Department of Transportation: underlying defect causes accelerators to stick.

More PhotosSafety analysts found an estimated 2000 cases in which owners of Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus, reported that their cars surged without warning up to speeds of 100 miles per hour.

CLICK HERE FOR MORE OF THE RUNAWAY TOYOTAS STORY.

Toyota says the incidents are caused by floor mats becoming stuck under gas pedals, but owners say that's not what happened to them.

Watch the full report tonight on 'World News with Charles Gibson' and 'Nightline'.

"I'm absolutely certain that in my situation, it was not the floor mats," Elizabeth James told ABC News. She was driving her Toyota Prius outside Denver, CO when she says it suddenly shot up to 90 miles an hour, even though her foot was on the brake and not the gas pedal.

"I kept going faster and faster," James said. "And all of a sudden… my foot was pressing on the brake super, super hard and I wasn't slowing down."

James and some other Toyota owners suspect the accidents have been caused by some kind of glitch in the electronic computer system used in Toyotas that controls the throttle.

http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...at-recall.html

Brock · 11-04-2009, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

Did anyone get killed? Did GM pass it off as ill fitting floor mats?

I don't know. Do you? Do you know that the floor mats are indeed not the problem? Or is this just more patented HemiEd Hate on imports?

**Lzen** · 11-04-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Should've bought a GM

Oh sure. There won't be any problem stopping if the car doesn't even start in the first place.

**HemiEd** · 11-04-2009, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I don't know. Do you? Do you know that the floor mats are indeed not the problem? Or is this just more patented HemiEd Hate on imports?

You brought the GM issue up, not me, so expected you to have some knowledge of it, fail.

If you watched the program last night, you might be convinced, as I am, that it is not a floor mat issue. One lady in Prius, said she did not even have the floor mats, in her car.

You might want to read some of the links, or do a google search on the subject, or is this just more of your blind defense of all things foreign again?

dilligaf · 11-04-2009, 01:08 PM

Toyotas come with fitted floor mats that are secured to the floor. If you are not smart enough to put them in right, then you deserve to die in a firey crash. This is a case of people trying to sue a large company to get free money. You can sue anyone for anything in this country and alot of times the company settles quick to avoid a long court battle. That's all this is.

blaise · 11-04-2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by dilligaf

Toyotas come with fitted floor mats that are secured to the floor. If you are not smart enough to put them in right, then you deserve to die in a firey crash. This is a case of people trying to sue a large company to get free money. You can sue anyone for anything in this country and alot of times the company settles quick to avoid a long court battle. That's all this is.

I don't care if you put them in wrong, they shouldn't make your gas pedal stick to the floor. If it's on Toyotas having this problem then it's a faulty design issue. Toyota can't just say, "Well, you didn't attach those two pegs through the holes right, it's just too bad your mom, brother and sister died in a fiery crash when it made the gas pedal stick down and they ran off the road into a ditch."

Brock · 11-04-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

You brought the GM issue up, not me, so expected you to have some knowledge of it, fail.

If you watched the program last night, you might be convinced, as I am, that it is not a floor mat issue. One lady in Prius, said she did not even have the floor mats, in her car.

You might want to read some of the links, or do a google search on the subject, or is this just more of your blind defense of all things foreign again?

I didn't bring GM up, you did. Remember, "If this were GM, it would be all over the news"?

I guess since a TV show says the Prius is dangerous, I should immediately sell my 84 Chevy pickup with the saddlebag gas tanks, after all Dateline NBC told me they were unsafe.

You might want to ask yourself what your motivation was to post this thread.

Pants · 11-04-2009, 01:16 PM

How are the gas pedals sticking to floor? Am I the only weird one that doesn't floor the goddamned gas pedal? I mean WTF kind of an explanation is that? Definitely sounds like an ECU issue.

wild1 · 11-04-2009, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing

Yes, but we must remember that, in general, a lot of these owners, especially females, buy cars like Toyotas because they don't want to deal with car issues because they don't understand cars very well.

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these owners don't know that they could put the car in neutral while it's in motion. And i doubt that they know that holding the push button start would kill the motor.

RTFM?

wild1 · 11-04-2009, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Turning off the engine at high speed is not such a good idea. You would immediately lose power steering and brakes.

I was only judging that preferable to accelerating until the engine blows up or you crash into something

**Skip Towne** · 11-04-2009, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Put car in neutral.

Brake to a safe stop.

Get car towed to dealership.

Crisis averted.

You must also go back along the hiway and pick up the pistons it threw through the hood @ 12,000 RPM

C-Mac · 11-04-2009, 01:27 PM

I remember some Dodge computers from the late 80's or early 90's early that were affected by a CB radio frequency. A truck using an amp with a CB could actually cause the engine to stop in the car next to it.

**HemiEd** · 11-04-2009, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

I didn't bring GM up, you did. Remember, "If this were GM, it would be all over the news"?

I guess since a TV show says the Prius is dangerous, I should immediately sell my 84 Chevy pickup with the saddlebag gas tanks, after all Dateline NBC told me they were unsafe.

You might want to ask yourself what your motivation was to post this thread.

YOU Brock brought up the fact that GM had an acceleration issue, that is what I asked the question about. Spin, spin, spin you are the master of it.

Oh, and it is no secret I hate foreign cars, we all know that. I make no bones about it.

This is the first thread I have started in months, and felt it might we a worthwhile discussion, and their might be a remote chance that someone may have some personal experience with it.

**HemiEd** · 11-04-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

How are the gas pedals sticking to floor? Am I the only weird one that doesn't floor the goddamned gas pedal? I mean WTF kind of an explanation is that? Definitely sounds like an ECU issue.

Bingo!

Brock · 11-04-2009, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd

YOU Brock brought up the fact that GM had an acceleration issue, that is what I asked the question about. Spin, spin, spin you are the master of it.

Oh, and it is no secret I hate foreign cars, we all know that. I make no bones about it.

This is the first thread I have started in months, and felt it might we a worthwhile discussion, and their might be a remote chance that someone may have some personal experience with it.

I refuted your ill-thought-out comment that "if this were GM it would be all over the news". I just pointed out you were wrong, that's all. It was pretty easy to do. You're too emotionally invested in these garbage American companies to see things objectively.

Hoover · 11-04-2009, 01:40 PM

It happened to me, I just rode that mother fu@ker till she was out of gas.

j/k

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HemiEd Supporter Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ozarks Casino cash: $3110564	Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Accidents Caused by Sudden acceleration. Owners of Toyota Cars in Rebellion Over Series of Accidents Caused by Sudden Acceleration Anyone else been following this story? They had a pretty graphic show on nightline about it last night. http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/Runawa...ory?id=8980479 Refusing to accept the explanation of Toyota and the federal government, hundreds of Toyota owners are in rebellion after a series of accidents caused by what they call "runaway cars." Share Department of Transportation: underlying defect causes accelerators to stick. More PhotosSafety analysts found an estimated 2000 cases in which owners of Toyota cars including Camry, Prius and Lexus, reported that their cars surged without warning up to speeds of 100 miles per hour. CLICK HERE FOR MORE OF THE RUNAWAY TOYOTAS STORY. Toyota says the incidents are caused by floor mats becoming stuck under gas pedals, but owners say that's not what happened to them. Watch the full report tonight on 'World News with Charles Gibson' and 'Nightline'. "I'm absolutely certain that in my situation, it was not the floor mats," Elizabeth James told ABC News. She was driving her Toyota Prius outside Denver, CO when she says it suddenly shot up to 90 miles an hour, even though her foot was on the brake and not the gas pedal. "I kept going faster and faster," James said. "And all of a sudden… my foot was pressing on the brake super, super hard and I wasn't slowing down." James and some other Toyota owners suspect the accidents have been caused by some kind of glitch in the electronic computer system used in Toyotas that controls the throttle. http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2...at-recall.html Last edited by HemiEd; 11-04-2009 at 12:48 PM..
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dilligaf AKA bigpepe Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Idaho Casino cash: $7524958	Toyotas come with fitted floor mats that are secured to the floor. If you are not smart enough to put them in right, then you deserve to die in a firey crash. This is a case of people trying to sue a large company to get free money. You can sue anyone for anything in this country and alot of times the company settles quick to avoid a long court battle. That's all this is.
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Pants Time Keeps On Slipping Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $5619900	How are the gas pedals sticking to floor? Am I the only weird one that doesn't floor the goddamned gas pedal? I mean WTF kind of an explanation is that? Definitely sounds like an ECU issue. __________________ "Turn the channel to 26!"
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C-Mac Lurker Extraordinaire Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Wally World Casino cash: $2183699	I remember some Dodge computers from the late 80's or early 90's early that were affected by a CB radio frequency. A truck using an amp with a CB could actually cause the engine to stop in the car next to it.
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