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Old 12-06-2012, 06:48 PM   #1
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He's right here. The gun culture in this country has become so prevalent that it isn't even really possible to have a legitimate debate about the issue any longer. No politician who actually wants to win anything would ever even suggest any kind of gun control.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:51 PM   #2
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He's right here. The gun culture in this country has become so prevalent that it isn't even really possible to have a legitimate debate about the issue any longer. No politician who actually wants to win anything would ever even suggest any kind of gun control.
You obviously don't live in the Peoples Republik of Illinois. Or New York. Or Kalifornia.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:01 PM   #3
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I further argued that our Second Amendment is outdated. The right to bear arms no longer protects us from a government armed with stealth bombers, predator drones, tanks, nuclear weapons and all the other knickknacks James Madison and Co. couldn’t envision when ratifying the Bill of Rights in 1791.
That just means that we need to make "stealth bombers, predator drones, tanks, nuclear weapons and all the other knicknacks James Madison and Co. couldn’t envision when ratifying the Bill of Rights in 1791" more readily available to the general public. One of the biggest problems in the country is that the government no longer fears its people.
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:06 PM   #4
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That just means that we need to make "stealth bombers, predator drones, tanks, nuclear weapons and all the other knicknacks James Madison and Co. couldn’t envision when ratifying the Bill of Rights in 1791" more readily available to the general public. One of the biggest problems in the country is that the government no longer fears its people.
It's like he doesn't even know that a goat herder in the middle east not only evaded those Stealth Bombers for decades but did so while directing several successful attacks on this government and it's allies.
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Old 12-06-2012, 06:56 PM   #5
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Old 12-06-2012, 07:39 PM   #6
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Sounds like Whitlock's primary concern is not with people owning guns, but an irresponsible, "gangsta, hip hop culture" that fetishes guns. I suppose if you hear enough stories about young black adults getting shot and killed, it hits home.

This board is made up of people from the midwest, where guns are for primarily for hobby (even before self defense). It's a completely different culture in poor, urban areas. They don't get guns because they want to hunt. And the NRA is completely fine with that sacrifice of young, colored males.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:02 PM   #7
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. And the NRA is completely fine with that sacrifice of young, colored males.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:31 PM   #8
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Sounds like Whitlock's primary concern is not with people owning guns, but an irresponsible, "gangsta, hip hop culture" that fetishes guns. I suppose if you hear enough stories about young black adults getting shot and killed, it hits home.

This board is made up of people from the midwest, where guns are for primarily for hobby (even before self defense). It's a completely different culture in poor, urban areas. They don't get guns because they want to hunt. And the NRA is completely fine with that sacrifice of young, colored males.
Yeah, we discussed that at the last meeting. Sacrificing young, colored males came right after the pipe bomb workshop. Then we broke for lunch and in the afternoon shot up a grade school in a poor Mexican neighborhood.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:41 PM   #9
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Sounds like Whitlock's primary concern is not with people owning guns, but an irresponsible, "gangsta, hip hop culture" that fetishes guns. I suppose if you hear enough stories about young black adults getting shot and killed, it hits home.

This board is made up of people from the midwest, where guns are for primarily for hobby (even before self defense). It's a completely different culture in poor, urban areas. They don't get guns because they want to hunt. And the NRA is completely fine with that sacrifice of young, colored males.
Actually that's not entirely true, people in urban areas do get guns to hunt...they just often are hunting an entirely different type of game.

I grew up in KS but I'm on the west coast for now and one of the things that has always shocked me is how afraid people are of guns out here. I grew up with them and to me they are no big deal. To be respected yes...to be feared no. But out here people just see them and immediate think they should call the cops. People are taught to fear guns and that is a sad thing.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:45 PM   #10
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Actually that's not entirely true, people in urban areas do get guns to hunt...they just often are hunting an entirely different type of game.

I grew up in KS but I'm on the west coast for now and one of the things that has always shocked me is how afraid people are of guns out here. I grew up with them and to me they are no big deal. To be respected yes...to be feared no. But out here people just see them and immediate think they should call the cops. People are taught to fear guns and that is a sad thing.
The sad truth is that law abiding citizens in shitty urban neighborhoods are the ones who should be lining up to join the NRA.
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:10 PM   #11
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Old 12-06-2012, 08:29 PM   #12
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But I will say this, I agree with some of his points, but to call O’Reilly an entertainer and not admit he's just the same, well that's where he's duping people. He's just like O’Reilly, he just has a different opinion than O’Reilly.
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