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Old 01-12-2013, 03:53 PM   #1
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:28 PM   #2
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Her singing was atrocious. Her singing was worse than Crowe's, yes.
Wow. Everyone's entitled to his opinion, but you're just wrong with that assessment.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:45 PM   #3
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Wow. Everyone's entitled to his opinion, but you're just wrong with that assessment.
Yeah, she's pitchy at times - usually on the high notes. But other than those very minor moments, she's great. She absolutely does her job.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:30 PM   #4
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Crowe's performance was an abomination. I agree with that. But I'm pretty sure you guys don't have ears. Seyfried was horrendously pitchy. I kept shaking my head 'no' whenever she was singing.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:40 PM   #5
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Crowe's performance was an abomination. I agree with that. But I'm pretty sure you guys don't have ears. Seyfried was horrendously pitchy. I kept shaking my head 'no' whenever she was singing.
Frankly, I can't remember ever seeing a performance of Cosette that I did like. Agree with FMB that it's a forgettable part, and even when done on stage, the performances tend to come off as shrill and unpleasant, and that's with top level stage people doing it. I thought Seyfried finally brought some humanity to the role.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:50 PM   #6
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Crowe's performance was an abomination. I agree with that. But I'm pretty sure you guys don't have ears. Seyfried was horrendously pitchy. I kept shaking my head 'no' whenever she was singing.
"Horrendously pitchy" is an overstatement; it's also not a real term. It's an American Idol-ism that has no place in musical discussion, and it tells me you may not know as much as you want us to believe. You and I have had no problems on CP, and I hope it doesn't start here. Of course, I could be wrong, and I'm truly not trying to offend by saying that. I say that hoping you'll be more explicit in what you mean when you say she was "horrendously pitchy." Are you saying she was off-key? She wasn't. Are you saying her performance was flat (as opposed to her pitch being flat)? Yeah, it kinda was, but so is the character. Are you saying she was breathy? She was.

Crowe's tone was swallowed; it's the reason he had no projection and no power, except every now and then when he'd get on top of some of the higher notes.

And the "don't have ears" comment: I realize this is all "internet" talk, so take it for whatever you think or don't think it's worth, but I spent two years in college as vocal performance major, finished with a minor when I switched to the film degree, and was a choir director for three years following college while putting my wife through school.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:51 PM   #7
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Gerard Butler would have been an infinitely better choice for Javert than Crowe. At least we know he can sing.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:54 PM   #8
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Gerard Butler would have been an infinitely better choice for Javert than Crowe. At least we know he can sing.
No he can't! He was equally bad as Phantom as Crowe was as Javert. Butler's idea of singing was belching through the performance.

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Old 01-12-2013, 04:56 PM   #9
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No he can't! He was equally bad as Phantom as Crowe was as Javert. Butler's idea of singing was belching through the performance.

Well, there you go. From an acting standpoint, I still think he would have been a more interesting choice than Crowe.

But if he can't sing, he can't sing.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:59 PM   #10
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Well, there you go. From an acting standpoint, I still think he would have been a more interesting choice than Crowe.

But if he can't sing, he can't sing.
Emmy Rossum was terrible, too. Her singing was fine, but she couldn't act her way out of a wet sack in that movie. Which leads me to believe the problem with the movie version of Phantom was Joel Schumacher's direction, because Rossum is great in Shameless.
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No he can't! He was equally bad as Phantom as Crowe was as Javert. Butler's idea of singing was belching through the performance.

Well, maybe not "equally bad" as Crowe... but he was terrible.
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Old 01-12-2013, 04:57 PM   #12
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No he can't! He was equally bad as Phantom as Crowe was as Javert. Butler's idea of singing was belching through the performance.

Oh come on - he wasn't that bad.
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Oh come on - he wasn't that bad.


I just posted above you that maybe not as bad as Crowe, but he was still terrible.
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Gerard Butler would have been an infinitely better choice for Javert than Crowe. At least we know he can sing.
Does he sing? I've never heard him. I would have been interested in seeing what he'd do with part. I think he would have been much more interesting.
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Does he sing? I've never heard him. I would have been interested in seeing what he'd do with part. I think he would have been much more interesting.
He played the Phantom in the film version of Phantom of the Opera.
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