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Old 12-21-2008, 10:06 PM  
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It can be unusual for a losing team to lose several games the same way. The Chiefs have this situation.

This team often has had productive games and leads through the first half. They have often experienced teams countering their game in the second half and winning. There are obvious points about playing a complete game and holding on to a lead, but I have these two observations. What do you think?

1. There's something about Thigpen's or the Chiefs' game for which successful teams are making effective halftime adjustments and beating them. What are these adjustments? What are they adjusting to and changing to be more effective with in the second halves of games?

2. If you have a lead at half time you are delusional if you think your team only needs to more or less keep doing what they did in the first half in order to win. My observation--it is only an uneducated observation--is that Herm is poor on game day, and specifically in his or his staff's ability to make or anticipate adjustments in the game at hand. A team has all week to prepare for a game. But specifically a team has twelve minutes to prepare for a second half. As I have suggested, an adjustment may be understand and accounting for the adjustments the other team is making. Never mind close scores. Look at the stats and points. Whatever the Chiefs are doing to prepare for the second half is failing miserably.
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:50 PM   #31
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Its not about that 1 call, its about the 2nd half of football games lately.
I blame Thigpen more than Chan. He is limited in what he can do. Makes it easy to adjust to the Chiefs' offense.
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:55 PM   #32
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I blame Thigpen more than Chan. He is limited in what he can do. Makes it easy to adjust to the Chiefs' offense.
The total abandon of the run in the 2nd half is not on Thigpen. If a coach recognizes the limitations of his qb, then he runs the ball with the lead in the 2nd half.
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Old 12-21-2008, 10:58 PM   #33
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The total abandon of the run in the 2nd half is not on Thigpen. If a coach recognizes the limitations of his qb, then he runs the ball with the lead in the 2nd half.
Well Thigpen is the reason they are constantly in shotgun which is going to make you a passing team.
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Old 12-21-2008, 11:00 PM   #34
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Who's a choker? Herm, Chan, Thigpen, all of them?
All of them..

Herm historically has been a choker and it hasnt changed...

Chan, well GT people will say he is a choker and folds under pressure...

Thigpen is a QB from Coastal Carolina... He shouldnt even be on the field at times, but our staff put all there eggs on Brokie and Downfield BigQuitter...
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Old 12-21-2008, 11:01 PM   #35
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Old 12-21-2008, 11:02 PM   #36
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Thigpen kinda uses that Huard QB way of thinking... Just chuck that mother to TG no matter what the coverage is...

Thigpen could easily have 10-15 more picks this year. There were probably 6-8 that should of been picked today...
I don't think that's necessarily it.

He seems more comfortable throwing to Tony over the middle of the field because it's a shorter, easier throw.

He seems very uncomfortable throwing the ball outside the numbers.
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All of them..

Herm historically has been a choker and it hasnt changed...

Chan, well GT people will say he is a choker and folds under pressure...

Thigpen is a QB from Coastal Carolina... He shouldnt even be on the field at times, but our staff put all there eggs on Brokie and Downfield BigQuitter...
Speaking of that, it sure was great judgment to go into this year thinking Croyle was the guy eh?
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Well Thigpen is the reason they are constantly in shotgun which is going to make you a passing team.
I won't argue Thigpen's shortcomings. But the playcalling in the 2nd half of ballgames is suspect.
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I won't argue Thigpen's shortcomings. But the playcalling in the 2nd half of ballgames is suspect.
It's partially because it's a gimmick offense with a QB who is so wildly inconsistent and wildly inaccurate you don't know what you'll get then mix that with being in shotgun constantly you aren't going to be able to milk the clock.
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I won't argue Thigpen's shortcomings. But the playcalling in the 2nd half of ballgames is suspect.
There's not really much the Chiefs can do on offense.

They're good at running from the spread in limited doses, and throwing a lot of short routes out of the spread.

They suck at running from traditional sets, and they suck at throwing the ball down the field.

Today we got lucky because we reeled in a couple jump balls and Charles broke one loose. Doesn't always happen.
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Right now the Chiefs are just a bad team all around they lack talent everywhere.
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Right now the Chiefs are just a bad team all around they lack talent everywhere.
naw, really? ****. guess I should cancel my flight and hotel room for the super bowl, eh?
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Speaking of that, it sure was great judgment to go into this year thinking Croyle was the guy eh?
Yeah I was on the Croyle bandwagon... Was the navigator... Well that didnt work out so well... It was a bummer, I was pulling for the kid, but hes done...
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I don't think that's necessarily it.

He seems more comfortable throwing to Tony over the middle of the field because it's a shorter, easier throw.

He seems very uncomfortable throwing the ball outside the numbers.

very comfortable throwing the ball outside the numbers? I guess if 10 feet over the head of the receiver is comfortable. Then he is relaxing in his snuggy....


Regardless of the coverage. 3,4,5,19 guys around TG, he will throw into severe coverage to get the ball to his buddy TG....


And yes, just imagine if half the balls that were dropped by opposing D's ( and I know it happens in the NFL to other QB's ) there would be a good chance Thiggy is getting his ass railed by half or more of this board...
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