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Old 12-31-2007, 07:28 PM  
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It's interesting how bitter the fans are now...
Carl and Herm are staying... ok, that's expected.
The Chiefs are going to go "young"... ok, that did start this year.
Carl doesn't want to win a SB, and never did... I doubt that.
"Rufus" says we aren't going to sign any FA's... well, that makes sense if we plan to build through the draft.

I guess I understand that this season was disappointing... and I agree that the last the 5 year plan was a constant failure for nearly 20 years now.

But the irrationalism is reaching an all time high.
  • I believe without a doubt that Herm and Carl both want win a superbowl.
  • Carl has no desire to go out embarassed by his last few years... if for n other reason, his massive ego will force him to try one last time to win the SB.
  • Herm has wanted to rebuild from the ground up from the day he arrived. We as fans and by proxy, Carl as Herm's boss forced him to accept DV's legacy roster. Sounds like Herm will finally get everything he wants.
  • Because his hands have been somewhat tied by DVs legacy, Herm will have his first and likely last chance to field a team as he always wanted it to be. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt for one last season.
  • If there is anyone in our organization's history that I would want trying to build our team through the draft, it's Herm. Not sure I want him coaching those players on game day, but that's another story.

Whatever the outcome, I do think that Herm and Carl are doing what they think is required to win a Superbowl in KC. I hope they get it figured out. I'm not counting on it, but I'm going to support it.
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:29 PM   #2
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Wanting something and KNOWING HOW TO GET IT are very different. These people appear to have no clue.
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:32 PM   #3
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and what has Carl done in the last 15 years to demonstrate that he has the first ****ing clue about how to build a Championship team?


just another Dufus article...fans are dumb, Carl is smart...give him another 5 years to solve the problems (that he created...oops! not supposed to say that...)


Carl is THE problem. As long as we ignore that, we will end up with the same result: Nothing.
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:33 PM   #4
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Sorry jAZ, but there is no place for rational thought here today. Back to DC for you!
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:34 PM   #5
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:34 PM   #6
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:36 PM   #7
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:39 PM   #8
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Sorry jAZ, but there is no place for rational thought here today. Back to DC for you!

What is there to rationalize? The same asshole whose been promising the same line of bullshit for 20 years that things will get better while others in the AFC West have succeeded where the Chiefs have failed is still here.
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Old 12-31-2007, 07:39 PM   #9
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and what has Carl done in the last 15 years to demonstrate that he has the first ****ing clue about how to build a Championship team?


just another Dufus article...fans are dumb, Carl is smart...give him another 5 years to solve the problems (that he created...oops! not supposed to say that...)


Carl is THE problem. As long as we ignore that, we will end up with the same result: Nothing.
Come on guys, Carl just needs more time.
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Old 12-31-2007, 08:06 PM   #10
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Old 12-31-2007, 08:06 PM   #11
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Old 12-31-2007, 08:28 PM   #12
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Old 12-31-2007, 09:01 PM   #13
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Is it possible that Peterson (sorry - the debil) was telling the truth in one of his latest interviews - this is the first time he has had a coach that wanted to rebuild and start with youth?

Schottenheimer for 10 years - Never attempted to start a young QB (didn't he want Brees over Rivers in SD)? Veterans over kids. Kept bringing in F/A in failed attempts at several positions.
Gunther for 2 years - just a bad decision for H/C
Vermeil for 5 years - obvious there - he wanted Green and no one else. Blind faith in veterans at all positions - didn't want to play kids
Herm - has played more young players than any of them. Has turned over most of the roster in just 2 years. Perhaps "the debil" couldn't overcome the coaches addiction of the past 18 years and "had" to start Huard this year.

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Old 12-31-2007, 09:13 PM   #14
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[*]Carl has no desire to go out embarassed by his last few years... if for n other reason, his massive ego will force him to try one last time to win the SB.
[*]Herm has wanted to rebuild from the ground up from the day he arrived. We as fans and by proxy, Carl as Herm's boss forced him to accept DV's legacy roster. Sounds like Herm will finally get everything he wants.
Carl winning a SB in two years and Herm building a roster from the ground up are conflicting. Herm has been in position for two years and we are on a steep downward path. He doesn't have time to do a draft rebuild, especially when 1) he has no QB and 2) has many holes on the starting roster and 3) has a bunch of old guys in many of the places where there are not holes.

Herm and Carl doing a rebuild through the draft is destined to fail. If you are going to commit to this, you need a fresh regime that has a 3 to 4 year clock.
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Old 12-31-2007, 09:17 PM   #15
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I can see Herm getting a 3 year clock from Clark.
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