Smokers... (Why) do you litter your butts everywhere? - Page 4

**jAZ** · 01-21-2006, 11:08 PM

This is one thing that I've never understood.

Some smokers won't throw any regular garbage in the street, but they will pitch a 100 butts a day anywhere but the ashtray.

**Rausch** · 01-22-2006, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

I must say that seeing a smoker throw a cigarette butt on the ground annoys me immensely. I view it no differently than them throwing a hamburger wrapper or piece of paper onto the ground. It's rude and it makes the Indians cry.

Yeah, I'd really hate to ruin my good name, being a cracker, to the native Americans...

**Rain Man** · 01-22-2006, 12:26 AM

I should mention one exception to my littering rule. A friend of mine and I walked out to his car one day many years ago, and some idiot had stuck a flyer on his windshield (Lose weight now...earn money at home...be a hit man in your spare time...something like that). He crumpled it up and threw it on the ground, and I was stunned at the actions of this otherwise solid citizen.

I started to admonish him, and he said that if everyone threw those things on the ground, the owners of the mall would eventually start patrolling the place and making sure it stopped happening. I thought he was a genius, so I started doing it.

I've done it for years now. If someone puts a flyer on my windshield, I just throw it onto the ground. Whoever owns the property will take action if they get tired enough of picking up hundreds of those trashy things.

Of course, it was a little embarrassing a few months ago when I did that, and this woman made a production of coming over, picking it up, and carrying it over to a trash can. She didn't want to listen to my explanation, either. What an ecoterrorist.

4th and Long · 01-22-2006, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

Well come on, that phrase he used was just not well thought out. It was almost like he was trying to make us all believe he never showers or washes his clothes unless, God forbid, he comes in contact with someone who *gasp* SMOKES!

Taco John · 01-22-2006, 12:28 AM

Has the "Poll Smokers" joke already been made in this thread... I probably shouldn't leave it open ended, but what the hell...

Frazod · 01-22-2006, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

That's why I posed the question. They really haven't done jack shit for cancer treatment. Anyone with an advanced stage of cancer, even in the 21st century, has a slim chance of living a long life. There are sooooooooo many forms of cancer out there that it's really hard to keep track of. To say that the ACS has done a lot for cancer is like sayng the American Beef Council has done a lot to save the lives of innocent cows.

Congratulations. You may well be smart enough to also realize that if a pregnant woman breathes in five minutes worth of second hand smoke, from a single cigarette being smoked 20 feet away, her fetus will not suddenly and irrevocably grow a third arm and become instantly crack-addicted.

Of course, you will not be invited to any ACS monthly meetings.

**Bugeater** · 01-22-2006, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Well come on, that phrase he used was just not well thought out. It was almost like he was trying to make us all believe he never showers or washes his clothes unless, God forbid, he comes in contact with someone who *gasp* SMOKES!

It's just like the idiots at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln who bitch about people smoking outside the gates, but don't seem to be bothered by the buses lined up along the sidewalk with their engines running spewing out diesel exhaust into the whole crowd.

**luv** · 01-22-2006, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Congratulations. You may well be smart enough to also realize that if a pregnant woman breathes in five minutes worth of second hand smoke, from a single cigarette being smoked 20 feet away, her fetus will not suddenly and irrevocably grow a third arm and become instantly crack-addicted.

Of course, you will not be invited to any ACS monthly meetings.

I knew a girl who smoked all through her pregnancy (she switched to ultra lights...lol), and nothing happened to her baby at all.

4th and Long · 01-22-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by luv2rite

Cancer Survivors Network
Relay For Life
Camp Hope

Cancer Survivors Networks: Hello and welcome! You've entered a vibrant community established by people just like you whose lives have been touched by cancer. We hope you'll find strength and inspiration from our personal stories, discussions and expressions of caring.

A VIBRANT COMMUNITY! I'm envisioning a place with really bright colors on the wall.

Lives TOUCHED by cancer! Is this like, Touched By An Angel?

Strength and inspiration! - Read the Bible.

What a crock of shit.

Relay For Life: Relay For Life is a fun-filled overnight event designed to celebrate survivorship and raise money for research and programs of your American Cancer Society. During the event, teams of people gather at schools, fairgrounds, or parks and take turns walking or running laps. Each team tries to keep at least one team member on the track at all times.

This isn't about cancer, it's about making people stay up all night to walk or run for some money that won't be used to find a cure for cancer. Hell, you can donate to the ACS, WITHOUT the walking and running. Talk about pointless.

Camp Hope: Camp HOPE (Helping Other's Pain End) is a wonderful place in central Wisconsin where children and teenagers gather to work through the grieving process after a loved one dies. The camp gently guides the children and teenagers through the complex emotions by showing them that they are not alone.

This is a place to shove your kids off, because you can't handle being a parent and talking to them about death.

HOPE stands for HELPING OTHER'S PAIN END. I fully expect jack Kavorkian to greet me when I arrive.

**Bugeater** · 01-22-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by luv2rite

I knew a girl who smoked all through her pregnancy (she switched to ultra lights...lol), and nothing happened to her baby at all.

That kid will most certainly grow up to be a serial rapist.

Frazod · 01-22-2006, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Bugeater

It's just like the idiots at Memorial Stadium in Lincoln who bitch about people smoking outside the gates, but don't seem to be bothered by the buses lined up along the sidewalk with their engines running spewing out diesel exhaust into the whole crowd.

Also because of Chicago's new smoking ban, you can't smoke on the concourses at either of the Metra stations downtown. But you can breath in the diesel fumes of dozens of locomotives in an enclosed space. Yahoo!

**Rausch** · 01-22-2006, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by luv2rite

Not research related, but here are some good programs:

Cancer Survivors Network
Relay For Life
Camp Hope

Smoking is not the only cause of cancer. I have several relatives who are either cancer survivors, or who have died from cancer. While the ACS does raise funding for research, they also offer other avenues for people looking for information, people looking for emotional support, etc.

Like I said, I'm not against smokers, but I am for the ACS.

Ok, so:

Alcohol
Red meat
Radiation
Pesticides (on pretty much all produce)
genetics (just being born)
and even fugging sunlight can cause cancer.

The government has tested over 90 atomic bombs in our own damned country in the last 50 years.

But it's the 2nd hand smoke you have to worry about?

And people wonder why cancer is such a problem?...

Hell, look at this map and tell me what you find odd about it. Then consider weather patterns in the US.

**luv** · 01-22-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Cancer Survivors Networks: Hello and welcome! You've entered a vibrant community established by people just like you whose lives have been touched by cancer. We hope you'll find strength and inspiration from our personal stories, discussions and expressions of caring.

A VIBRANT COMMUNITY! I'm envisioning a place with really bright colors on the wall.

Lives TOUCHED by cancer! Is this like, Touched By An Angel?

Strength and inspiration! - Read the Bible.

What a crock of shit.

Relay For Life: Relay For Life is a fun-filled overnight event designed to celebrate survivorship and raise money for research and programs of your American Cancer Society. During the event, teams of people gather at schools, fairgrounds, or parks and take turns walking or running laps. Each team tries to keep at least one team member on the track at all times.

This isn't about cancer, it's about making people stay up all night to walk or run for some money that won't be used to find a cure for cancer. Hell, you can donate to the ACS, WITHOUT the walking and running. Talk about pointless.

Camp Hope: Camp HOPE (Helping Other's Pain End) is a wonderful place in central Wisconsin where children and teenagers gather to work through the grieving process after a loved one dies. The camp gently guides the children and teenagers through the complex emotions by showing them that they are not alone.

This is a place to shove your kids off, because you can't handle being a parent and talking to them about death.

HOPE stands for HELPING OTHER'S PAIN END. I fully expect jack Kavorkian to greet me when I arrive.

Are you going to point out flaws in all of my posts from now on? Have fun, there are plenty of them out there, and plenty more to come.

4th and Long · 01-22-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

Congratulations. You may well be smart enough to also realize that if a pregnant woman breathes in five minutes worth of second hand smoke, from a single cigarette being smoked 20 feet away, her fetus will not suddenly and irrevocably grow a third arm and become instantly crack-addicted.

Of course, you will not be invited to any ACS monthly meetings.

Being in health care for 12+ years does tend to give me a slight edge over the common non-smoking goober who thinks second hand smoke is the leading cause of every illness and death related malady known to man.

4th and Long · 01-22-2006, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by luv2rite

Are you going to point out flaws in all of my posts from now on? Have fun, there are plenty of them out there, and plenty more to come.

Not at all. I'm just waiting for you to site an example of something the ACS has done that REALLY makes a difference to people battling cancer.

**luv** · 01-22-2006, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Not at all. I'm just waiting for you to site an example of something the ACS has done that REALLY makes a difference to people battling cancer.

They've made a difference to ME. That's why I am not against them. Have I, one time, dogged on smokers in this thread? No.

View Poll Results: Smokers... (Why) do you litter your butts everywhere?
I'm a smoker, I litter my butts almost all the time (see below for why).	8	11.94%
I'm a smoker, I litter my butts only when I have no alternative.	11	16.42%
I'm a smoker, I litter my butts almost never.	7	10.45%
I'm not a smoker.	41	61.19%
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01-21-2006, 11:08 PM
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01-22-2006, 12:26 AM	#47
Rain Man NFL's #1 Ermines Fan Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $3198491 VARSITY	I should mention one exception to my littering rule. A friend of mine and I walked out to his car one day many years ago, and some idiot had stuck a flyer on his windshield (Lose weight now...earn money at home...be a hit man in your spare time...something like that). He crumpled it up and threw it on the ground, and I was stunned at the actions of this otherwise solid citizen. I started to admonish him, and he said that if everyone threw those things on the ground, the owners of the mall would eventually start patrolling the place and making sure it stopped happening. I thought he was a genius, so I started doing it. I've done it for years now. If someone puts a flyer on my windshield, I just throw it onto the ground. Whoever owns the property will take action if they get tired enough of picking up hundreds of those trashy things. Of course, it was a little embarrassing a few months ago when I did that, and this woman made a production of coming over, picking it up, and carrying it over to a trash can. She didn't want to listen to my explanation, either. What an ecoterrorist. __________________ I'm putting random letters here as a celebration of free speech: xigrakgrah misorojeq rkemeseit.
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