"Obesity is a disease not a decision"

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Cannibal

My wife hates plain water. She uses that Mio flavoring shit.

I mostly drink plain ole water. I don't mind the taste of it.

I loved the taste of water when I went 2 days without it while cutting weight as a teen.


Nothing beats the taste of cold water when you havent eaten in days, haven't really slept, had nightmares about eating, etc.

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I loved the taste of water when I went 2 days without it while cutting weight as a teen.


Nothing beats the taste of cold water when you havent eaten in days, haven't really slept, had nightmares about eating, etc.

Yeah, or Sunday morning dehydration!

[Sorter]

Originally Posted by Cannibal

Yeah, or Sunday morning dehydration!

The worst is when you sleepwalk out of your dorm and find yourself drinking water like it was going out of fashion. Then you have to run for a few hours. In plastics. In a creepy ****ing tiny ass room with like one treadmill and a bunch of windows at 2am.

[Cannibal]

Originally Posted by Sorter

The worst is when you sleepwalk out of your dorm and find yourself drinking water like it was going out of fashion. Then you have to run for a few hours. In plastics. In a creepy ****ing tiny ass room with like one treadmill and a bunch of windows at 2am.

Yeah, **** that shit. Think I would have quit right about then.

[Prison Bitch]

Well, at least I don't have to ever worry about being overweight. Let alone obese. I imagine that would suck, like having herpes or cancer.

[Frosty]

There is no such thing as the "starvation mode" as thought of by dieters. Your metabolism will drop slightly with extended calorie restriction in response to less body mass (as you lose weight) but won't drop to zero (or you would be dead).

The internet is full of people that supposedly gained weight on 500-1000 calorie diets yet no metabolic ward study (where someone else controls the food) has ever actually found one of these people.

There are several issues that make it seem like it exists. One is that food charts are frequently wrong and can be off as much as 20%. Also, it's impossible to get an 100% accurate calorie count on some things, like meat, because the actual fat content varies so much.

Also, there are short term effects that can mask your actual fat loss. Water is the worst as it can vary by several pounds a day. Women have it worst here because hormonal changes can cause them to gain a lot of water weight in a short time. You have to do it consistently for a longer period of time to get an accurate picture of what is going on. A few days won't show it and can be deceiving.

Here is an extreme example:

http://www.ncbi..nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/

A 27 year old man fasted with nothing but water and a few supplements for 382 consecutive days. He went from 456 pounds to 180 pounds. Tests during his fast showed he didn't lose all of his muscle. He also maintained at 196 pounds five years later so he didn't wreck his metabolism and gain it all right back.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Frosty

There is no such thing as the "starvation mode" as thought of by dieters. Your metabolism will drop slightly with extended calorie restriction in response to less body mass (as you lose weight) but won't drop to zero (or you would be dead).

The internet is full of people that supposedly gained weight on 500-1000 calorie diets yet no metabolic ward study (where someone else controls the food) has ever actually found one of these people.

There are several issues that make it seem like it exists. One is that food charts are frequently wrong and can be off as much as 20%. Also, it's impossible to get an 100% accurate calorie count on some things, like meat, because the actual fat content varies so much.

Also, there are short term effects that can mask your actual fat loss. Water is the worst as it can vary by several pounds a day. Women have it worst here because hormonal changes can cause them to gain a lot of water weight in a short time. You have to do it consistently for a longer period of time to get an accurate picture of what is going on. A few days won't show it and can be deceiving.

Here is an extreme example:

http://www.ncbi..nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2495396/

A 27 year old man fasted with nothing but water and a few supplements for 382 consecutive days. He went from 456 pounds to 180 pounds. Tests during his fast showed he didn't lose all of his muscle. He also maintained at 196 pounds five years later so he didn't wreck his metabolism and gain it all right back.

Just read the first page......and it said that guy would go 37-48 days between bowel movements. ****ing hell.....

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Just read the first page......and it said that guy would go 37-48 days between bowel movements. ****ing hell.....

If you don't eat anything, there isn't much waste to poop out. I believe later in the paper that he wasn't constipated. Just no waste.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Frosty

If you don't eat anything, there isn't much waste to poop out. I believe later in the paper that he wasn't constipated. Just no waste.

Yeah....it would just be weird to go that long without taking a shit.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yeah....it would just be weird to go that long without taking a shit.

I would fall way behind in my reading.

[CoMoChief]

The shit these companies put in our food is causing people to blow up. On the other hand these obese people know just about every food that comes in a brown paper bag or is commercially packaged w/ preservatives etc is bad for you and they continue to eat it because it doesn't give them nutrients their bodies need it just temporarily satisfies their brain into thinking they're not hungry anymore, until they get hungry again just a couple hrs later and their body's trained to want that kind of food. That's why some people eat fast food everyday.

[teedubya]

I've been eating like a vegan for the past 9 days and I'm down 10.2lbs.

Actually, I'm more eating like a Veganazi. Because, I've had no soda, no sweets, no processed foods, no dairy, no meat...

I'm doing it to retrain my body and flush the cholesterol out of my system... I'll always be a carnivore... but in less amounts.

Eating vegan for 30 days is more of a discipline mindset and taking control over food, instead of the other way around. I work at a computer desk all day, so I had to stop mindlessly "fog eating"...

All of the meals that I've had so far, have been beyond delicious. Yesterday at Worlds of Fun all day, was tough... but luckily, there was a PandaExpress.

[houstonwhodat]

Originally Posted by teedubya

I've been eating like a vegan for the past 9 days and I'm down 10.2lbs.

Actually, I'm more eating like a Veganazi. Because, I've had no soda, no sweets, no processed foods, no dairy, no meat...

I'm doing it to retrain my body and flush the cholesterol out of my system... I'll always be a carnivore... but in less amounts.

Eating vegan for 30 days is more of a discipline mindset and taking control over food, instead of the other way around. I work at a computer desk all day, so I had to stop mindlessly "fog eating"...

All of the meals that I've had so far, have been beyond delicious. Yesterday at Worlds of Fun all day, was tough... but luckily, there was a PandaExpress.

What the hell did you eat at Panda Express that was healthy?

Everything there is full of sugar, salt.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

What the hell did you eat at Panda Express that was healthy?

Everything there is full of sugar, salt.

Panda Express says "**** you vegetarians!"

[loochy]

Originally Posted by houstonwhodat

What the hell did you eat at Panda Express that was healthy?

Everything there is full of sugar, salt.

There is enough salt in one meal to dry up 58,023,123 slugs.