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Old 12-13-2012, 07:56 AM   #1
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babb describes the infamous dinner with him, whitlock, haley, and pioli

he calls pioli a 'lunatic...and a freak'

we were screwed from the start....
Yep. Whitlock nailed this one from the start. We all flamed him for it, but in fairness, we didn't get to participate in the dinner. Holy shit.
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:56 AM   #2
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basically, no one wants to work with pioli, and the people that do hate it...

we're ****ed until he is gone
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:11 AM   #3
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babb podcast is great

"he's a joke and a fraud"
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:13 AM   #4
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said the only hire pioli got right was mark donovan...

said Clark has/had no idea what was going on...he'd show up and pioli puts on a pony show, then he flies away...
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:26 AM   #5
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said the only hire pioli got right was mark donovan...

said Clark has/had no idea what was going on...he'd show up and pioli puts on a pony show, then he flies away...
Here's something nobody has thought of yet, or maybe they have and just haven't posted it...

How do we know Mark Donovan isn't talking to Clark on a daily basis, telling him all the nasty things Pioli is doing?

Chiefs PR reports up through DONOVAN, not Pioli.

Pioli is making the entire team look bad and Donovan has to deal with it more often than not.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:39 AM   #6
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Here's something nobody has thought of yet, or maybe they have and just haven't posted it...

How do we know Mark Donovan isn't talking to Clark on a daily basis, telling him all the nasty things Pioli is doing?

Chiefs PR reports up through DONOVAN, not Pioli.

Pioli is making the entire team look bad and Donovan has to deal with it more often than not.
yeah, you'd think Clark would go to him to confirm/deny some of this shit...but I bet it has only been recently, as Donovan knows pioli is a dead man walking
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:14 AM   #7
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"clark will solidify his reputation in the next 5 weeks...if he keeps pioli he is the worst owner in the nfl"
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:29 AM   #9
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said the only hire pioli got right was mark donovan...

said Clark has/had no idea what was going on...he'd show up and pioli puts on a pony show, then he flies away...
I believe he was referring to Clark when talking about Donovan.

Saying as much as he screwed up the Pioli hire, he did nail the Donovan hire.

I listened to that podcast last night (great stuff), and I didn't realize how bad it was. I read arrowhead anxiety and all that but right from the start with that dinner story it's been bad.

That was some damning stuff. I don't think Pioli will ever work in NFL again.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:35 AM   #10
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I believe he was referring to Clark when talking about Donovan.

Saying as much as he screwed up the Pioli hire, he did nail the Donovan hire.

I listened to that podcast last night (great stuff), and I didn't realize how bad it was. I read arrowhead anxiety and all that but right from the start with that dinner story it's been bad.

That was some damning stuff. I don't think Pioli will ever work in NFL again.
Right.

CLARK hired Donovan.

Donovan and Pioli are peers, in terms of the corporate structure.
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:38 AM   #11
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I believe he was referring to Clark when talking about Donovan.

Saying as much as he screwed up the Pioli hire, he did nail the Donovan hire.

I listened to that podcast last night (great stuff), and I didn't realize how bad it was. I read arrowhead anxiety and all that but right from the start with that dinner story it's been bad.

That was some damning stuff. I don't think Pioli will ever work in NFL again.
you're right

it is still hard to believe that pioli is this much of an asshole...everyone hates him...everyone
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Old 12-13-2012, 08:47 AM   #12
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you're right

it is still hard to believe that pioli is this much of an asshole...everyone hates him...everyone
So basically Pioli has done nothing right in 4 years.

It's hard for me to wrap my head around how much of a failure this guy has been. Usually you have a few things here and there that you can say he has done well, but there is literally nothing.

He's alienated everyone that he works with and alienated the entire fanbase. And I think the majority of the fanbase gives too much leeway when it comes to the Chiefs, but this guy managed to turn everyone against him in just 4 years. Even the casual fans. Incredible, really.
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welp, it's just depressing that a franchise could be taken over by one guy this way

shutting down the foundations, not allowing players to promote themselves in the community or via media outlets, installing a regime of surveillance and fear...taking the fun out of everything for everyone

incalculable damage in 4 years...and every player and coach in the league knows it...what a miserable asshole
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welp, it's just depressing that a franchise could be taken over by one guy this way

shutting down the foundations, not allowing players to promote themselves in the community or via media outlets, installing a regime of surveillance and fear...taking the fun out of everything for everyone

incalculable damage in 4 years...and every player and coach in the league knows it...what a miserable asshole
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If someone, say Daboll, were fired a few weeks ago, then we might have a problem.

The fact taht no one has been released yet is a pretty damning thing for this regime. There is about to be an absolute axe fall on it.

And from what I've heard, the people in the organization love Marc Donovan and he's gonna be here for a long time. Those I've talked to think, once Pioli and his antics are gone, Donovan can have the fans back to where we were in the Chiefs "prime" years, very quickly.
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