Drafting a nose = bad idea this year.

[Direckshun]

I keep forgetting UP is a Memphis homer.

[Ultra Peanut]

No diggity. BIG EAST SPEED Y'ALL

(If you like blowing 14+ point leads against terrible teams like Middle Tennessee State, Marshall, and UAB, Memphis' 2011 season was a dream come true. Worst secondary/o-line ever.)

[whoman69]

"Defensive Tackle is the strongest position in the draft," said Charley Casserly of NFL Network, an opinion shared by another former NFL GM Michael Lombardi.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by whoman69

"Defensive Tackle is the strongest position in the draft," said Charley Casserly of NFL Network, an opinion shared by another former NFL GM Michael Lombardi.

There's a ton of inside talent going to be available and I heard Mayock say he though there could be as many as SIX tackles taken in the 1st round.

That being said, very few of them project to 3-4 NT.

[Direckshun]

bump.

[Nightfyre]

I really liked that kid from Georgia in next years draft. Not remembering his name off the top of my head. Too bad we drafted Poe.

[Chiefshrink]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

I really liked that kid from Georgia in next years draft. Not remembering his name off the top of my head. Too bad we drafted Poe.

Well then, it looks like we are getting a QB next yr in the 1st rd after Cassel fails again. Guess Pioli decided to deal with the weak run D up the middle this year and decided next yr.'s QB crop coming out is better than the lower half of the QB crop this yr.(Tannehill,Weeden,Cousins,Osweiler).

This buys time for Pioli hoping Cassel finally comes around which won't happen.

[the Talking Can]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Nose tackle prospects in the draft:

Dontari Poe, Memphis -- raw, from small school, inconsistent motor.

spot on

[kcbubb]

I didn't realize how bad the NT draft was. I thought Chapman and Ta'amu were better than 4th and 5th round picks. Sometimes it is easier to tell about a guy by how far he falls because so many times pass them 3 or 4 times. These guys were much worse than I thought.

I guess that is why we took Poe so high. Because there were really no other viable options in the draft.

[whoman69]

Originally Posted by kcbubb

I didn't realize how bad the NT draft was. I thought Chapman and Ta'amu were better than 4th and 5th round picks. Sometimes it is easier to tell about a guy by how far he falls because so many times pass them 3 or 4 times. These guys were much worse than I thought.

I guess that is why we took Poe so high. Because there were really no other viable options in the draft.

Or perhaps the other teams that knew they had a need crossed us off their list of competitors and knew they could get their guy later in the draft.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Or perhaps the other teams that knew they had a need crossed us off their list of competitors and knew they could get their guy later in the draft.

Not only this, but how many teams NEED a starting NT? For teams other than the Chiefs, depth doesn't usually get drafted until round 4. Bubb has been making me scratch my head a lot lately.

Same thing happened to Stanzi. Teams that NEEDED QB's took them early. Not only that, but he was passed up for guys he was ranked higher than universally b/c they were several picks. i.e. He doesn't have a hand cannon, but gets great placement on the deep ball.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Not only this, but how many teams NEED a starting NT? For teams other than the Chiefs, depth doesn't usually get drafted until round 4. Bubb has been making me scratch my head a lot lately.

Same thing happened to Stanzi. Teams that NEEDED QB's took them early. Not only that, but he was passed up for guys he was ranked higher than universally b/c they were several picks. i.e. He doesn't have a hand cannon, but gets great placement on the deep ball.

Better examples are both Cody and Powe.

Those guys both went a couple of rounds later than anyone thought they would because there just isn't an incredible need for 3-4 NT.

So a guy like Chapman that's not going to be exciting for a 4-3 team or even a 1-gap 3-4 team is going to slide because the Chiefs are about the only 2-gap 3-4 team that was stupid enough to go without a NT for 2 years.

I think Pioli just completely blew the demand for the NT position and reached on Poe.

Kid had better end up a hell of a lot more than just a serviceable NT. We've had our shot at several serviceable NTs in this draft and the last couple.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by aturnis

Not only this, but how many teams NEED a starting NT? For teams other than the Chiefs, depth doesn't usually get drafted until round 4. Bubb has been making me scratch my head a lot lately.

Same thing happened to Stanzi. Teams that NEEDED QB's took them early. Not only that, but he was passed up for guys he was ranked higher than universally b/c they were several picks. i.e. He doesn't have a hand cannon, but gets great placement on the deep ball.

I knew Indy needed a starting NT for their new 3-4 defense they're going to institute. Sure enough they got Josh Chapman conveniently in the middle rounds.

And if he's not the answer leave it to the ****ing Colts to get lucky again and waltz into the draft next year with one of the better NT prospects in a few years waiting right there for them.

Draft an outstanding prospect at the most important position on offense: Check

Draft an outstanding prospect at the most important position on defense: Check

In two years they have two of "their guys". Realistically if both Luck and their NT pan out, they don't need much of a team around them. Those two guys alone plus the skeleton of a team they have right now will get them 7, 8, or 9 wins- records that we consistently strive for and embrace.

I love being a Chiefs fan.

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by SNR

I knew Indy needed a starting NT for their new 3-4 defense they're going to institute. Sure enough they got Josh Chapman conveniently in the middle rounds.

And if he's not the answer leave it to the ****ing Colts to get lucky again and waltz into the draft next year with one of the better NT prospects in a few years waiting right there for them.

Draft an outstanding prospect at the most important position on offense: Check

Draft an outstanding prospect at the most important position on defense: Check

In two years they have two of "their guys". Realistically if both Luck and their NT pan out, they don't need much of a team around them. Those two guys alone plus the skeleton of a team they have right now will get them 7, 8, or 9 wins- records that we consistently strive for and embrace.

I love being a Chiefs fan.

Plus they drafted a stud OT in Anthony Costanzo last year to protect Luck's blind side.

With a OT, QB and NT set, that's a nice foundation to work with. Then they pick up two stud TE's and grabbed a very nice running back in Vick Ballard in the fifth. Colts had a nice draft.

It's funny that some teams just stay competitve all the time and others suck dog nuts all the time...

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by whoman69

Or perhaps the other teams that knew they had a need crossed us off their list of competitors and knew they could get their guy later in the draft.

Stanzi last year?