Mitch Holthus weekly talk on KXNO

htismaqe · 09-15-2006, 08:11 AM

I wouldn't normally post these since they're usually about HS football and pizza, but he said some rather earth-shattering stuff this morning...

1) Trent Green's injury is much more serious than people think. Mitch talked like Trent could be out until late October.

2) The Chiefs will not be trading for a QB because they want their draft picks. Mitch said he might as well make it official - Herm is going to rebuild this team.

3) The period of debating about this offense is over. Herm wasn't lying when he said he wasn't going to touch the offense, but that was before last weekend when Solari continued to run min-protect passing sets after giving up consecutive sacks. The offense is going to change.

**Donger** · 09-15-2006, 08:14 AM

fuck.

ChiefsfaninPA · 09-15-2006, 08:15 AM

#1 is the most troubling. But I guess that is to be expected when you take a shot to the head. As far as Herm changing the offense, he needs to if that means LJ touches the ball more. I don't see anything negative in this.

**DaFace** · 09-15-2006, 08:16 AM

Ouch. Normally, I'd keep up hope but Mitch is about as credible source there is, IMO.

hawkchief · 09-15-2006, 08:18 AM

I still believe that there is a greater chance that Trent will retire than play again. I hope I'm wrong.

htismaqe · 09-15-2006, 08:20 AM

I guess my only heartburn is with #2.

If they're gonna finally do this, I'd prefer it be without Herm and Carl in charge...

DMAC · 09-15-2006, 08:21 AM

Come on Huard!!

Chiefnj · 09-15-2006, 08:23 AM

Well, we all hoped deep down the O could continue and Herm could tweak the D and the Chiefs remain competitive and have a shot this year.

Like the great D's of the 90's that have gone to waste, so has the great O of the early 2000's. It's a shame.

Saunders was able to overcome the loss of Welbourn and Roaf last year, I'm not sure why Solari can't do the same especially since the O line is his forte. There were some ugly plays when the starters were out in 2005, but never anything as bad as last week. If there is one thing Solari should be able to do is manage the OL. Scrapping the entire scheme seems drastic, but oh well.

I don't blame Herm. He came into a situation where the window was closing and the ice cracking. I do have doubts on his ability to build a team from scratch, especially with the present coaching staff.

It's kind of an odd situation. They kept Solari so they could continue the old O. Now they are forced to abandon it. Will they keep Solari? If it is a complete rebuild does Herm still want Gun?

MOhillbilly · 09-15-2006, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I guess my only heartburn is with #2.

If they're gonna finally do this, I'd prefer it be without Herm and Carl in charge...

no shit- rebuild the rebuild when theyre gone.

GoHuge · 09-15-2006, 08:26 AM

Thank God! That is what I have been screaming about all week long. Somebody needs to do something about the playcalling. ALot of people here think Solari called a good game, I don't and apparently Mitch feels the same way. Shorten the drops, bring in another TE, something. Don't keep running the same thing over and over if your QB is getting hurried, sacked, run out of the pocket, or KO'd every time you call it. Just look at Trent's last drive. It wasn't working, make adjustments.

Dear Coach Solari,

Willie Roaf is retired (he mentioned it again yesterday), Jordan Black sucks, the left tackle hasn't played in two years, and T-Rich is gone. Seven and five step drops are not an option. Don't keep running the same play over and over when you see it fail time and time again. A screen or check down to LJ might be a good idea. Just sprinkle it in. Keep'em guessing. You didn't call a screen to LJ until the third quarter. He showed that when he gets the ball in his hands good things happen (5 catches for 80yds). Maybe your still saving him, but you might want to get him going sometime soon. Herm says he's a pretty good "player" and you saw what he can do when you where the O-Line coach. Preseason is over. All these games your playing count now. Not bustin your balls coach...just an FYI. Open the choke, pull the cord, and fire it up. It's time to go.

**the Talking Can** · 09-15-2006, 08:27 AM

season is over

**Skip Towne** · 09-15-2006, 08:28 AM

I'm really beginning to wonder about Solari. The man forgets the down and distance in critical situations.

MOhillbilly · 09-15-2006, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I'm really beginning to wonder about Solari. The man forgets the down and distance in critical situations.

a well schooled madden player could beat him head2head in his play calling.

DMAC · 09-15-2006, 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I'm really beginning to wonder about Solari. The man forgets the down and distance in critical situations.

I still don't think that is what happened.

Blame Game.

old_geezer · 09-15-2006, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Skip Towne

I'm really beginning to wonder about Solari. The man forgets the down and distance in critical situations.

The Peter Principal at work. Solari is a great O-line coach; out of his league at O-co-ordinator.

09-15-2006, 08:11 AM
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	Mitch Holthus weekly talk on KXNO I wouldn't normally post these since they're usually about HS football and pizza, but he said some rather earth-shattering stuff this morning... 1) Trent Green's injury is much more serious than people think. Mitch talked like Trent could be out until late October. 2) The Chiefs will not be trading for a QB because they want their draft picks. Mitch said he might as well make it official - Herm is going to rebuild this team. 3) The period of debating about this offense is over. Herm wasn't lying when he said he wasn't going to touch the offense, but that was before last weekend when Solari continued to run min-protect passing sets after giving up consecutive sacks. The offense is going to change.
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ChiefsfaninPA "F_ck Family Fun Night" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $10005025	#1 is the most troubling. But I guess that is to be expected when you take a shot to the head. As far as Herm changing the offense, he needs to if that means LJ touches the ball more. I don't see anything negative in this.
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09-15-2006, 08:16 AM	#4
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $2016899	Ouch. Normally, I'd keep up hope but Mitch is about as credible source there is, IMO.
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I guess my only heartburn is with #2. If they're gonna finally do this, I'd prefer it be without Herm and Carl in charge...
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09-15-2006, 08:21 AM	#7
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09-15-2006, 08:23 AM	#8
Chiefnj MVP Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Willis, Harris and Davis. Casino cash: $10004900	Well, we all hoped deep down the O could continue and Herm could tweak the D and the Chiefs remain competitive and have a shot this year. Like the great D's of the 90's that have gone to waste, so has the great O of the early 2000's. It's a shame. Saunders was able to overcome the loss of Welbourn and Roaf last year, I'm not sure why Solari can't do the same especially since the O line is his forte. There were some ugly plays when the starters were out in 2005, but never anything as bad as last week. If there is one thing Solari should be able to do is manage the OL. Scrapping the entire scheme seems drastic, but oh well. I don't blame Herm. He came into a situation where the window was closing and the ice cracking. I do have doubts on his ability to build a team from scratch, especially with the present coaching staff. It's kind of an odd situation. They kept Solari so they could continue the old O. Now they are forced to abandon it. Will they keep Solari? If it is a complete rebuild does Herm still want Gun? __________________ "I always tell (the assistant coaches), 'Make it simple, 'cause I'm stupid,'" Edwards said. "This ain't computer football." Herm Edwards, 3-20-07 Q: Herm, back on December 25th you were asked if Trent Green was your starter going into next season and you said, ‘yeah, why wouldn’t he be?’ Have you changed your mind on that? EDWARDS: No, I have not.” (1-11-07)
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09-15-2006, 08:26 AM	#10
GoHuge The Truth Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $10006072	Thank God! That is what I have been screaming about all week long. Somebody needs to do something about the playcalling. ALot of people here think Solari called a good game, I don't and apparently Mitch feels the same way. Shorten the drops, bring in another TE, something. Don't keep running the same thing over and over if your QB is getting hurried, sacked, run out of the pocket, or KO'd every time you call it. Just look at Trent's last drive. It wasn't working, make adjustments. Dear Coach Solari, Willie Roaf is retired (he mentioned it again yesterday), Jordan Black sucks, the left tackle hasn't played in two years, and T-Rich is gone. Seven and five step drops are not an option. Don't keep running the same play over and over when you see it fail time and time again. A screen or check down to LJ might be a good idea. Just sprinkle it in. Keep'em guessing. You didn't call a screen to LJ until the third quarter. He showed that when he gets the ball in his hands good things happen (5 catches for 80yds). Maybe your still saving him, but you might want to get him going sometime soon. Herm says he's a pretty good "player" and you saw what he can do when you where the O-Line coach. Preseason is over. All these games your playing count now. Not bustin your balls coach...just an FYI. Open the choke, pull the cord, and fire it up. It's time to go. Last edited by GoHuge; 09-15-2006 at 09:03 AM..
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