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Old 08-27-2011, 08:11 AM  
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Branden Albert is innocent.

I think these screenshots show that Albert is just fine (other than a play or two) and Richardson (as usual) is the real issue.

This is every pass play we ran save one, which was a 20-yard completion to Urban.

#1 - Play-action fake, 0 pressure. Cassel is late with the throw, incomplete. Looks like Richardson is holding. Albert is innocent.



#2 - Another play fake, Moeaki, not Albert, gets beaten by the defensive end. Albert is innocent.



#3 - Quick screen to some scrub. 0 pressure.



#4 - Another play fake, the blitz comes up the middle and Charles can't get in position to pick it up. Richardson is getting beat around the edge. Albert is innocent.



#5 - Straight drop, 0 pressure, Mo drops it. Mo is having a shitty preseason. Albert is innocent.



#6 - Straight drop, 0 pressure, scrub makes an exciting catch for two yards.



#7 - Middle screen, Rams sniff it out and it's dead.

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#8 - Straight drop, 0 pressure, complete to Steve Titty. Looks like Richardson is holding again. Albert is innocent.



#9 - Wiegmann snaps the ball early and both tackles get "beat." Either this is on Wiegmann or everyone else didn't know the snap count, because they all get out of their stances late. Albert is guilty of being as dumb as everyone else or smarter than Wiegmann.



#10 - Palko's in, 0 pressure, pass to breasts.



#11 - Rams blitz #24, Palko hits his hot read (some scrub). No pressure from Albert's man.



#12 -Nice pocket, no pressure from Albert's man.



#13 -Richardson gets beat, gets called for holding. Albert is innocent.



#14 -Quick pass, both tackles cut their man. Sort of a shitty cut on Albert's part but, eh, irrelevant....and innocent.



#15 - Albert and Richardson ride their men out of the play, Palko steps up into a clean pocket and overthrows Mo. Albert is innocent.



#16 - Screen pass.



#17 - Richardson gets beat, some scrub gets destroyed on the blitz pickup. Complete to Urban.



#18 - Albert gets beat horribly. This is the first true pressure Albert allows during the entire game so far. Cassel escapes and dumps it to a scrub. Albert is guilty of giving up Richardson-like pressure.



#19 - Cassel's pass is batted at the line. 0 pressure.



#20 - Throw to Bowe who is interfered with, no call. Albert's man gets to the inside but stops as soon as the ball is thrown. Albert could have recovered most likely. End result: innocent.



Anyway, one guy can play his position, one guy is a disaster.

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Old 08-27-2011, 09:08 AM   #31
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I'd still like to see it when you have time.
It's very blurry. From what I can tell Mo was late reacting to the ball.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:10 AM   #32
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i can see why they made the call on hudson...he's got his hands on the defender, when the defender lunges at charles it looks like Hudson is bringing him down....really depends on which angle the ref is seeing it from
And yet, there was a play in which Bowe was essentially getting mugged by the DB, and it appears the back judge was looking directly at them, and there was no flag.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:11 AM   #33
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Sorry Clay but screen shots and smartly edited GIFs won't be able to justify your love for Albert.
Haha, what?

The guy gave up one legit pressure all night.

You're blind if you see anything else. Period.

Accusing me of editing gifs....nice....**** yourself.

This has nothing to do with "love" for Albert. I'm just committed to the truth about Albert and people are being unfair. A lot of idiots see pressure coming from the blindside and don't even realize it was the TE blowing the block.

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Good gawd look at pic #2, if that's all our LT has to offer in pass protection we might as well line up Pope over there and cover him with Moeaki.
It was a play-action fake. Albert carried out his run fake and then turned around and saw Moeaki getting absolutely beasted by the DE. Not sure how that's his fault.

As for the cut block, it had exactly 0 impact on the play.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:12 AM   #34
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And yet, there was a play in which Bowe was essentially getting mugged by the DB, and it appears the back judge was looking directly at them, and there was no flag.
yeah, i thought that was an obvious call....life in the nfl
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:13 AM   #35
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And yet, there was a play in which Bowe was essentially getting mugged by the DB, and it appears the back judge was looking directly at them, and there was no flag.
The officiating was pathetic last night. After re-watching it the Rams OL was blatantly holding consistently and getting away with it.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:14 AM   #36
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And yet, there was a play in which Bowe was essentially getting mugged by the DB, and it appears the back judge was looking directly at them, and there was no flag.
I'd like to see that play again as well.

From what I remember, Bowe was jammed at his break, which is legal.

The defender had perfect coverage on him the entire route, and I don't recall him grabbing or hooking Bowe. Remember, he can have a hand on his back, and it's perfectly legal. Just can't grab or hook an arm.

Again, I'm going from memory, but it just looked like good coverage to me.

The bigger question is why we're running a 6 yard route on 3rd and (IIRC) 9 or 10.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:15 AM   #37
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The play you're talking about is Fletcher breaking up a pass with Bowe.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:16 AM   #38
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I'd like to see that play again as well.

From what I remember, Bowe was jammed at his break, which is legal.

The defender had perfect coverage on him the entire route, and I don't recall him grabbing or hooking Bowe. Remember, he can have a hand on his back, and it's perfectly legal. Just can't grab or hook an arm.

Again, I'm going from memory, but it just looked like good coverage to me.

The bigger question is why we're running a 6 yard route on 3rd and (IIRC) 9 or 10.
I saved this play....and he definitely got interfered with. It'll be in this week's Gif'd Up. The ball is in the air and the DB is all over Bowe.
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i can see why they made the call on hudson...he's got his hands on the defender, when the defender lunges at charles it looks like Hudson is bringing him down....really depends on which angle the ref is seeing it from
I can see why they call it, but from where I sat, Hudson has his hads under the pads, and when the defender tries to disingage and lunges, Hudson gives him a push that knocks him off balance which helps him to the ground quicker.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:17 AM   #40
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Haha, what?

The guy gave up one legit pressure all night.

You're blind if you see anything else. Period.

Accusing me of editing gifs....nice....**** yourself.

This has nothing to do with "love" for Albert. I'm just committed to the truth about Albert and people are being unfair. A lot of idiots see pressure coming from the blindside and don't even realize it was the TE blowing the block.



It was a play-action fake. Albert carried out his run fake and then turned around and saw Moeaki getting absolutely beasted by the DE. Not sure how that's his fault.

As for the cut block, it had exactly 0 impact on the play.
I wish I could put on the blinders and see the future HOF LT you are seeing but I can't. Our OL has serious issues and they start at the tackle positions.
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I saved this play....and he definitely got interfered with. It'll be in this week's Gif'd Up. The ball is in the air and the DB is all over Bowe.
Better be a Mikell highlight in there.
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amazing how Stude's limitations are suddenly clearer when he's replaced by Houston....everything Houston does screams Talent...though he still has a lot to learn, he got washed out on some running plays

Jackson is more active, but still not stout at the los..
Studebaker's limitations are made clearer by Sheffield, as well.

Sheffield is not only a faster, more athletic pass rusher, but he was better in run defense last night as well, and it wasn't even close.

Houston is just a freak.
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Old 08-27-2011, 09:19 AM   #43
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I wish I could put on the blinders and see the future HOF LT you are seeing but I can't. Our OL has serious issues and they start at the tackle positions.
I don't see a HOFer, but comparing Albert to Richardson is wrong. Albert is an average left tackle, maybe a tad better. Richardson is a disaster.

One pressure in 20 snaps is not an issue as far as I'm concerned.
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I can see why they call it, but from where I sat, Hudson has his hads under the pads, and when the defender tries to disingage and lunges, Hudson gives him a push that knocks him off balance which helps him to the ground quicker.
Hudson did have his hands under the pads. To start.

To me, it looks like when the DL tries to disengage, Hudson moves his hand from a legal hold under the pads, to the outside, underneath the armpit - grabbing the outside of the chest plate.
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amazing how Stude's limitations are suddenly clearer when he's replaced by Houston....everything Houston does screams Talent...though he still has a lot to learn, he got washed out on some running plays

Jackson is more active, but still not stout at the los..
Houston had better be a player.

If not, it's going to be a long year against the rush. And with Belcher's issues in pass coverage and often playing the strong side, the left side of our defense is going to be abused if that's the best we can do.
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