Football Chris Weinke (IMG Academy) Talks with Danny Parkins about upcoming QB class. - Page 16

**mdchiefsfan** · 01-29-2013, 06:58 AM

http://www.610sports.com/topic/play_...udioId=6212845

Pretty good stuff in here guys. Sorry if Q.

Strongside · 01-29-2013, 10:20 PM

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I can't see this picture on my phone, but I'm just imagining a picture of Matt cassel

fixed...now try it...link was broken.

silver5liter · 01-29-2013, 10:22 PM

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fixed...now try it...link was broken.

My god that is amazing, I was close lol

**BossChief** · 01-29-2013, 10:22 PM

I wouldn't be pissed if we took Barkley, but I would be disappointed. The kid is like Palmer, who was a really good player till he got kimod.

**BossChief** · 01-29-2013, 10:24 PM

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My god that is amazing, I was close lol

If that ever happens, hit the post number towards the top right of he post and it will open that single post in a separate window. That's the only way I can see some of the posted pics when I'm on my phone.

fairladyZ · 01-29-2013, 10:24 PM

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Basically this. his arm isn't as strong as genos.

oh for sure i think mechanically he's tapped out, i think he can get a little stronger but not much. But also in that list we've been talking about of QB's in the league i would put barkley's arm in the top half of the league right now the way it sits. Yes geno as far as arm talent has a higher ceiling then barkley.

I don't think matt has hit his ceiling as a QB though. he's a smart kid with very very high football IQ. with changing plays and audibling at the line he could very well become the chess match guru like peyton is at the line.

what about this as a connection. Andy reid is mormon.. Barkley is mormon.. #1 overall? lol

O.city · 01-29-2013, 10:26 PM

Coming from USC, Barkley is pretty much a finished project at this point. And no, he's not in the top half of the league.

htismaqe · 01-29-2013, 10:27 PM

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Yes, but this situation is a little different. Normally, when a QB skips it, it's because he's the head and shoulders QB of that class. Based on what we are being told, at this point, Geno isn't considered to be that.

Like I said, maybe what we are being told is wrong, maybe what Geno is being told is wrong. I'd think his agents have a better idea of what teams are thinking than some internet mock draft guys do, but at this point we just don't know.

Is it different, or have we just been convinced that it is?

I also tend to think his agents are much better informed than we are.

htismaqe · 01-29-2013, 10:28 PM

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Barkley doesn't have a noodle arm, but he's a guy that I think has pretty much hit his ceiling in terms of physical abilities. He can't tweek his footwork etc as much.

This.

Noodle arm? No.

But Geno has a slight edge in arm strength right now and if Geno can work on his mechanics, that gap will get wider and wider.

silver5liter · 01-29-2013, 10:28 PM

He also had an under 70 percent completion rate, 15 ints, throwing to some of the best talented wrs in the league with a great line (which geno and Wilson didn't get the benefit of)

htismaqe · 01-29-2013, 10:29 PM

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oh for sure i think mechanically he's tapped out, i think he can get a little stronger but not much. But also in that list we've been talking about of QB's in the league i would put barkley's arm in the top half of the league right now the way it sits. Yes geno as far as arm talent has a higher ceiling then barkley.

I don't think matt has hit his ceiling as a QB though. he's a smart kid with very very high football IQ. with changing plays and audibling at the line he could very well become the chess match guru like peyton is at the line.

what about this as a connection. Andy reid is mormon.. Barkley is mormon.. #1 overall? lol

I don't see any Peyton Manning in Barkley, sorry.

silver5liter · 01-29-2013, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This.

Noodle arm? No.

But Geno has a slight edge in arm strength right now and if Geno can work on his mechanics, that gap will get wider and wider.

Ok, not a full on noodle, like maybe a half cooked noodle.

fairladyZ · 01-29-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

This.

Noodle arm? No.

But Geno has a slight edge in arm strength right now and if Geno can work on his mechanics, that gap will get wider and wider.

agreed geno's arm is a slight edge at this point and has potential to grow i've never said otherwise. I just say barkley's arm is above average and under estimated by most.

And barkley's line WAS not very good, and neither was his Defense. Yes he had stud WR's but so did Geno. Barkley kept his team in the oregon and UCLA games and USC went to complete and total shit once they lost him for the season

silver5liter · 01-29-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by fairladyZ

agreed geno's arm is a slight edge at this point and has potential to grow i've never said otherwise. I just say barkley's arm is above average and under estimated by most.

And barkley's line WAS not very good, and neither was his Defense. Yes he had stud WR's but so did Geno. Barkley kept his team in the oregon and UCLA games and USC went to complete and total shit once they lost him for the season

Barkleys line was pretty damn good man. I don't have the stats but watching Wvus line and uscs its like night and day.

O.city · 01-29-2013, 10:32 PM

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Is it different, or have we just been convinced that it is?

I also tend to think his agents are much better informed than we are.

Well, I'd hope you would consider me to be a little more informed and do my own judgement not basing it on the talking head mock drafting guys.

And yes, I'm sure they are more informed. They are paid to be and have connections. All we are doing is speculating.

I'm speculating that based on his last half season of game tape, he has some questions to answer. I could say that his system got figured out and Holgorson is a moron, that he wasn't as bad as every one said, and that there were other factors playing into that, but I don't want to get shackled with being a Geno ite or whatever.

So I'm just going to say that, I would like to see him throw at the combine, but if he's being told "Hey, the Chiefs are already locked into you at 1" yeah I wouldn't throw.

But I don't personally see that being the case.

fairladyZ · 01-29-2013, 10:32 PM

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I don't see any Peyton Manning in Barkley, sorry.

not yet no but i think he has the smarts and the drive to push himself to try to get there. smart with pre-snap reads, smart with audibles, very good at manipulating defenses with his eyes, has a great pumpfake, student of the game and has been being groomed since a boy to do this. I think barkley has the highest floor out of the QB's and has just as high a ceiling as the others.

really wish he was taller though

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