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Old 08-18-2008, 02:52 PM  
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ESPN: Can Larry Johnson get back to his former self?

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Old 08-18-2008, 05:20 PM   #16
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That's good but people still don't seem to understand, he's an old RB with a ton of carries that hasn't prolonged his career by avoiding contact.

It's like people expect him to be productive for 4 more years which is absurd.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:22 PM   #17
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I love Larry and all, but there's something weird about the way he's been running this preseason. Maybe he's not going full speed or he doesn't have his legs under him yet, but something is...off...he doesn't look like the old Larry. It's like there's a hitch in his gitalong. It's not HUGE, but I see something.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:25 PM   #18
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That's good but people still don't seem to understand, he's an old RB with a ton of carries that hasn't prolonged his career by avoiding contact.

It's like people expect him to be productive for 4 more years which is absurd.
Mecca I know its unheard of on this board but i respect your opinion and enjoy football conversations with you. But this one I have to disagree. I beleive LJ does have alot of miles on him. Right now Im thinking he's looking at about 1100 1200 yrds and 9-12 td's. I dont think that is unrealistic he is more then capable of that. I also believe he has two more years of this left in his tank.
As far as the avoiding contact part, I can't deny it's true but it's football. I am tired of this run for the sideline/fold into the fetal position bullshit. You can say what you like about LJ but he's not a coward. I'm going to use R. Bush not because he's a USC guy but because he's the poster child for pussy ball. Bush has never found a sideline he didn't love to run to, and because of this he will never be a complete back. Yes there have been other backs who have used the sideline at the end of runs to avoid a shot or two, but you have to be able to run between the tackles. the loss of McCallister last year and the saints having to rely on Bush was more then proof. bush is a back you scheme with but a guy like Duece will get you tough runs and move the pile. you will always need a guy willing to do that to win in the NFL.
Now a guy like Bush might have a longer career but he or guys like him will never have a 1750 yard 20+ td season that a work horse is capable of.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:27 PM   #19
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I've always felt that LJ benefited tremendously from what was arguably one of the greatest offensive lines of all times after Priest suffered his injury and he was de-diapered. 400 carries or no 400 carries, he didn't look the same after our big Willie hung it up, for example. One has to wonder if LJ was ever the running back people believed him to be.

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Old 08-18-2008, 05:28 PM   #20
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I've always felt that LJ benefited tremendously from what was arguably one of the greatest offensive lines of all times after Priest suffered his injury and he was de-diapered. 400 carries or no 400 carries, he didn't look the same after our big Willie hung it up, for example. One has to wonder if LJ was ever the running back people believed him to be.

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This is just dumb, FAX. 2006 disproves your statement. Larry had a great season that year. A GREAT SEASON. With no Roaf. And no Trent Green for most of the year, either.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:28 PM   #21
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Well history said he would get injured last year after carrying it 400+ times...
History says your gonna post the same shit in every thread that includes LJ.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:30 PM   #22
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That's good but people still don't seem to understand, he's an old RB with a ton of carries that hasn't prolonged his career by avoiding contact.

It's like people expect him to be productive for 4 more years which is absurd.
Actually most people say that backs have a total amount of carries in their college, and pro career, before they start to break down.

LJs mileage is actually pretty low for his age.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:31 PM   #23
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This is just dumb, FAX. 2006 disproves your statement. Larry had a great season that year. A GREAT SEASON. With no Roaf. And no Trent Green for most of the year, either.
And had his dick ran into the dirt....

The load he carried in 2006 isnt something to be proud of... That was ****ing stupid from our Coaching staff...
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:32 PM   #24
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Diaper Boy is done. He has two things working against him, every back to have over 400 carries has never been the same and he got paid already and doesn't care anymore.
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:32 PM   #25
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Actually most people say that backs have a total amount of carries in their college, and pro career, before they start to break down.

LJs mileage is actually pretty low for his age.
Your moms mileage.... Eh I got nothing...

Nevermind!
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And had his dick ran into the dirt....

The load he carried in 2006 isnt something to be proud of... That was ****ing stupid from our Coaching staff...
We Chiefs fans have to take what we can get. No Super Bowl for us, so I'll be proud of the year Larry carried the team on his back into the playoffs...
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:34 PM   #27
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Diaper Boy is done. He has two things working against him, every back to have over 400 carries has never been the same and he got paid already and doesn't care anymore.
What about Eric Dickerson?
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Old 08-18-2008, 05:35 PM   #28
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We Chiefs fans have to take what we can get. No Super Bowl for us, so I'll be proud of the year Larry carried the team on his back into the playoffs...
If you say so... To me it is an embarrasement that our HC was so shortsighted that he would do that to his bread and butter RB... almost as bad as DV's win now attitude that left us old and empty..
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If you say so... To me it is an embarrasement that our HC was so shortsighted that he would do that to his bread and butter RB... almost as bad as DV's win now attitude that left us old and empty..
There was no one else to carry the ball.

And I am really tired of talking about two thousand and ****ing six.
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What about Eric Dickerson?
1 example? Lets look at all the backs that have broken 400 carries and compare them to get a honest average...
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