Chiefs Top DC Candidate - Page 4

**Rausch** · 01-07-2013, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I thought he looked best this season when they moved him inside on passing downs. Could see him as a DE on early downs (rushing plays) and then move inside as a penetrating DT on pass plays? Maybe?

Jackson is the guy I think would be the worst fit in a 4-3.

Powe/Poe and Dorsey (if resigned) could handle DT in a rotation.

I don't like Hali as a 4-3 OLB and he's not strong enough to play the end...

chiefzilla1501 · 01-07-2013, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Jackson is the guy I think would be the worst fit in a 4-3.

Powe/Poe and Dorsey (if resigned) could handle DT in a rotation.

I don't like Hali as a 4-3 OLB and he's not strong enough to play the end...

If he runs the under it is not a 4-3. It is an attacking defense using 3-4 personnel

**HemiEd** · 01-07-2013, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He would fit, but they aren't paying him that bonus or the base salary next year.

So they are just going to lose him you think? Maybe he will give the Chiefs a discount since he has been way overpaid?

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I wouldn't be so sure. In a 2-gap 4-3, you could play Jackson at DE and run Houston behind him at OLB.

I guess we'll see.

Would he then become a rushing DE, instead of just eating up blockers?

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Originally Posted by DaKCMan AP

I thought he looked best this season when they moved him inside on passing downs. Could see him as a DE on early downs (rushing plays) and then move inside as a penetrating DT on pass plays? Maybe?

I would love to see them get some return on that huge investment.

Hammock Parties · 01-07-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I wouldn't be so sure. In a 2-gap 4-3, you could play Jackson at DE and run Houston behind him at OLB.

I guess we'll see.

I think this is a terrible idea.

You cannot have 0 pass rush coming from a DE spot in the 4-3.

Nor can you have a guy 270 lbs in coverage like Houston.

Houston has to play DE in the 4-3. Period.

htismaqe · 01-07-2013, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by GoWalrus

I think this is a terrible idea.

You cannot have 0 pass rush coming from a DE spot in the 4-3.

Nor can you have a guy 270 lbs in coverage like Houston.

Houston has to play DE in the 4-3. Period.

Houston and Hali both at DEs isn't an option. They'll get eaten alive against the run.

**The Bad Guy** · 01-07-2013, 09:35 AM

He would fit, but they aren't paying him that bonus or the base salary next year.

htismaqe · 01-07-2013, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He would fit, but they aren't paying him that bonus or the base salary next year.

True.

dallaschiefsfan · 01-07-2013, 09:47 AM

Any DC that can work with our talent and exploit what we have....that's what I'm for. Schemes generally don't excite me. Having said that, I'd prefer a coach that can employ a 34-43 hybrid that's super-aggressive.

ChiefMojo · 01-07-2013, 09:48 AM

Told you guys this was coming. All signs were pointing to the 4-3 under which the likes of Kiffin, Jauron and Seattle runs.

It is actually a defense that s similar to the 3-4.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-07-2013, 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo

Told you guys this was coming. All signs were pointing to the 4-3 under which the likes of Kiffin, Jauron and Seattle runs.

Jauron runs a pure 4-3, I believe. The others run a hybrid.

ChiefMojo · 01-07-2013, 09:51 AM

Jauron ran a under at times while at Cleveland but yes he is more of your standard 4-3 guy.

Kiffin is the one that runs the under more so than his old Tampa 2. Remember before he developed the Tampa 2, Kiffin was the master of the 4-3 under while at Nebraska and Arkansas. Pete Carroll learned the 4-3 under from Kiffin at Arkansas.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-07-2013, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefMojo

Jauron ran a under while at Cleveland.

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/...g/dick-jauron/

Interesting. I'm okay with the defense. Figuring out if I'm OK with kiffi
n. I love Seattle defense and Cleveland defense was good considering the lack of talent.

htismaqe · 01-07-2013, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I love Seattle defense and Cleveland defense was good considering the lack of talent.

THIS.

Chiefs Pantalones · 01-07-2013, 09:55 AM

We better get pretty damn bad ass on the Dline fast then.

htismaqe · 01-07-2013, 09:56 AM

By the way, if we go with the under defense, either Hali or Houston will be playing DE but not both.

As others have stated, it uses 30 front personnel.

Chris Clemons is only about 260 but the guy opposite him runs like 320.

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ChiefMojo Happy, Happy, Happy!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10004935	Told you guys this was coming. All signs were pointing to the 4-3 under which the likes of Kiffin, Jauron and Seattle runs. It is actually a defense that s similar to the 3-4.
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ChiefMojo Happy, Happy, Happy!!! Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $10004935	Jauron ran a under at times while at Cleveland but yes he is more of your standard 4-3 guy. Kiffin is the one that runs the under more so than his old Tampa 2. Remember before he developed the Tampa 2, Kiffin was the master of the 4-3 under while at Nebraska and Arkansas. Pete Carroll learned the 4-3 under from Kiffin at Arkansas. Last edited by ChiefMojo; 01-07-2013 at 09:57 AM..
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htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	By the way, if we go with the under defense, either Hali or Houston will be playing DE but not both. As others have stated, it uses 30 front personnel. Chris Clemons is only about 260 but the guy opposite him runs like 320.
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