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Old 12-27-2012, 05:28 PM   #1
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IMO Pioli would have been a success in KC if he hadnt been a complete reerun regarding the quarterback position. I don't think his drafts were bad (outside of his 09 class, which was ****ing terrible) and I don't think his free agent classes were that bad, either.

I think firing Haley was a HUGE mistake and doubling and tripling down on Cassel is what is gonna get his ass fired.

Deservedly so.

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Hire a good head coach
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Hit a lot of singles and doubles in the draft and a homerun at least once every other draft.
agreed ... other than the reerun Haley fluffing shit.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:31 PM   #2
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agreed ... other than the reerun Haley fluffing shit.
Without Cassel, we might never have seen the outbursts we saw from Haley. You can't separate the two.

Cassel is the original sin.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:37 PM   #3
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Without Cassel, we might never have seen the outbursts we saw from Haley. You can't separate the two.

Cassel is the original sin.
how quickly forget all the reerun shit he did

he didn't move McCluster to running back because of Cassel
he didn't slam McCluster up the middle like a dam power back because of Cassel
he didn't decide whether to go for it on 4th down before our 3rd down play because of cassel
he didn't throw his challenge flag on reeruned play that gained us jack shit because of cassel
he didn't refuse to have an OC because of Cassel


Cassel was a major fail but Haley was an immature asshat


Haley better get a new job in arizona or something because he might not have a job next year in pittsburgh. imo.


people are fluffing Haley because it another way to lash out at Pioli
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:45 PM   #4
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people are fluffing Haley because it another way to lash out at Pioli
Which makes zero sense.

Haley was an abysmal head coach, and his failings only serve to accentuate the stupidity of Pioli for hiring him in the first place.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:58 PM   #5
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how quickly forget all the reerun shit he did

he didn't move McCluster to running back because of Cassel
he didn't slam McCluster up the middle like a dam power back because of Cassel
he didn't decide whether to go for it on 4th down before our 3rd down play because of cassel
he didn't throw his challenge flag on reeruned play that gained us jack shit because of cassel
he didn't refuse to have an OC because of Cassel


Cassel was a major fail but Haley was an immature asshat


Haley better get a new job in arizona or something because he might not have a job next year in pittsburgh. imo.


people are fluffing Haley because it another way to lash out at Pioli
What was he supposed to do with McCluster? The dude sucks and should have never been drafted. That's on Pioli.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:39 PM   #6
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Without Cassel, we might never have seen the outbursts we saw from Haley. You can't separate the two.

Cassel is the original sin.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:32 PM   #7
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IMO Pioli would have been a success in KC if he hadnt been a complete reerun regarding the quarterback position. I don't think his drafts were bad (outside of his 09 class, which was ****ing terrible) and I don't think his free agent classes were that bad, either.

I think firing Haley was a HUGE mistake and doubling and tripling down on Cassel is what is gonna get his ass fired.

Deservedly so.

A GMs job is three major parts:

Hire a good head coach
Draft the right quarterback
Hit a lot of singles and doubles in the draft and a homerun at least once every other draft.
Yep Yep, Pride comes before a fall and his ego killed him. In 2009 he wouldn't listen to Herm's scouts and so his draft was a disaster. He insisted on jamming Cassell down the evryone's throat - ego again over logic. We have all seen this in our private lives. A high level manager lacks the objectivity to make good decisions because their ego gets in the way.

Also, I realy doubt the rest of the NFL is eagerly salivating at the prospect of hiring Scot Pioli after his departure from KC. He destroyed one of the best franchises in the NFL.
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Old 12-27-2012, 05:40 PM   #8
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Old 12-27-2012, 09:16 PM   #9
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I think firing Haley was a HUGE mistake and doubling and tripling down on Cassel is what is gonna get his ass fired.
If hiring Haley was a HUGE mistake, in comparison hiring Romeo would be equivalent to bringing Cassel back as starter in '13. This team even with Cassel was capable of at least 6 wins with competent coaching.
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That's fine. I guess I don't disagree. I personally like what Carroll and Shanahan has done more, but that's just me. The Colts have just been SO lucky...they have gotten literally every bounce.

But hey, hats off. I don't really want Arians to be our next coach but I won't cry about it...there are much worse choices out there.
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If Pioli is retained, hires a new coach, and drafts Geno Smith, he will get sucked off by 95% of the fans.

Talk is tough now, but that shit will go out of the window in an instant.
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If Pioli is retained, hires a new coach, and drafts Geno Smith, he will get sucked off by 95% of the fans.

Talk is tough now, but that shit will go out of the window in an instant.
Pioli is dead to me now. He has become the dictator of this organization, so every mistake is his. I guess that's what happens when the owner's only job is to cash checks.
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Pioli is dead to me now. He has become the dictator of this organization, so every mistake is his. I guess that's what happens when the owner's only job is to cash checks.
Sadly, only a few people will actually feel the same way if my scenario happens.
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Talk is tough now, but that shit will go out of the window in an instant.
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