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Old 10-22-2014, 03:16 AM  
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The Week in Overreactions: Alex Smith is more than a game manager
By Ryan Wilson | CBSSports.com
October 21, 2014 8:16 am ET

Alex Smith isn't a game manager

It's easy -- and, frankly, lazy -- to categorize Alex Smith as a game manager because that appeared to be his ceiling early in his career. Some of those growing pains can be attributed to youth (he came into the league as a fresh-faced 20-year-old), expectations that come with being the first-overall pick in the 2005 draft, and landing on a bad 49ers team that had six different offensive coordinators in Smith's first six seasons.

That's the definition of setting someone up to fail. And while the perception of Smith didn't change once coach Jim Harbaugh arrived in 2011, the reality was that he became a more complete player.

• In 54 games (50 starts) from 2005-2010, Smith completed 57 percent of his passes (6.2 YPA) with 51 touchdowns and 53 interceptions.

• In 2011-2012 under Harbaugh, Smith played in 26 games (25 starts) completed 64 percent of his passes (7.4 YPA) with 30 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.

• And in a season and a half with the Chiefs and Andy Reid, Smith has started all 21 games, completing 62 percent of his passes (6.6 YPA) with 32 touchdowns and 11 interceptions.

We've been as guilty as anyone as taking Smith's accomplishments for granted, even regularly referring to him as "a bridge quarterback" to whomever is pegged as the next face of the franchise in Kansas City. But he's proven to be much, much more than that. We saw it in last season's playoff loss to the Colts, when he was 30 of 46 for 378 yards, with four touchdowns and no interceptions.

We saw it again in Week 4 when Smith completed 20 of 26 passes for 248 yards, with three touchdowns and no interceptions as the Chiefs throttled the Patriots, 41-14. And we were reminded once again on Sunday in San Diego when Smith, who has long been criticized for his inability to play from behind, did just that.

He led the Chiefs on a late-fourth-quarter, eight-play, 62-yard drive that began on their 8-yard line, and included a nine-yard scramble and passes of 19, 16 and eight yards to set up Cairo Santos' 48-yard field goal.

It wasn't spectacular but that's not Smith's game. (And when did spectacular equate to franchise savior, anyway? Jay Cutler has plenty of "spectacular" plays on his highlight reel but he's regularly played some truly awful football.)

According to Football Outsiders, Smith ranks 15th among all quarterbacks this season, ahead of Tom Brady, Carson Palmer and Ben Roethlisberger, but his steady-as-she-goes approach fits nicely with what Reid wants to do offensively. And even if it means fewer big plays down the field, it's hard to argue with the results; the Chiefs started 9-0 last season before finishing 11-5. And after an 0-2 start this season, they have won three of four, their only loss an eminently winnable game in San Francisco in Week 5. And this all comes after the Chiefs, prior to Reid and Smith's arrival, won a grand total of two games in 2012.

When Smith signed a four-year, $68 million extension just before the season, our only reservation was that it would mean the Chiefs would put off finding their next young quarterback. But at 30 years old, he's entering his NFL prime; there's no reason to rush him off the field. In fact, he could be the key to helping the Chiefs to back-to-back winning seasons for the first time since 2005-2006.
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Old 10-23-2014, 05:18 PM   #196
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Go take your own life.
On second thought... go ahead and put him on ignore. This is just ridiculous.
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Old 10-23-2014, 05:20 PM   #197
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By the same token, if he completes the pass to Fasano, we probably are not discussing this play.

Or, more than likely, if he throws the ball down the field to Jenkins and the pass is incomplete... And then Rivers leads the Bolts down the field to a game winning TD... this very same play is pulled up and everyone is blasting Smith for not making the first down pass to Fasano or Bowe.

And if not that, they would be blasting Reid for his game clock management skills.

It's just the way things are here.

But none of that played out, and we won in San Diego. I for one am happy about that!
Amen brother.
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Old 10-23-2014, 05:21 PM   #198
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But he's dropped the ball three times in six games.

I mean, what QB can trust a WR when he drops the ball that much?
Actually 5 games... Served the one game suspension. And I seem to remember more than 3 drops.
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Old 10-23-2014, 05:22 PM   #199
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If I claimed that Randy Moss quit on plays.....it can be proven. Dwayne Bowe? You can't prove it. You can't provide one ****ing image....one ****ing video of him quitting on a route or mailing it in.
your and idiot

You think there's a chance in hell that I would go through weeks of film and gif up plays in which to "prove" that Bowe was lazy?

Moss had an entire career of everyone pointing out his laziness... to the point where it was universally accepted.

Many "pure" Chiefs fans that don't even like Smith much have stated that Bowe is lazy.. right here and across other KC forums. Heck, there were articles last year of Bowe "looking like a slow TE"... remember those?

You really are one ignorant mother****er if you are going to stand behind this current position on Bowe.
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Old 10-23-2014, 05:23 PM   #200
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I'm not harping on. I'm trying to have a ****ing conversation about a football play on a football message board. Apparently, if shit isn't assholes and rainbows, I'm a negative shithead who isn't a fan.

Had he made plays earlier in the game, said last 2 minute drive where he was "clutch", wouldn't have had to happen.

Same in the 9er game. and the bronco game. See, games the Chiefs lost because plays weren't made.
Talk about the other plays that could've lead to TDs that weren't made by some of the best playmakers at the wideout position in the league. Hemmingway had 1 guy to beat but didn't even get the chance to because he lost the chance to do so by not catching a routine ball that a 5 year old could make. Bowe drops one that the same 5 year old could make and Jenkins had no field awareness and lost the chance to score on a sure TD. Are these plays that could've put the game away as well, or nah? I'm guessing nah, since it wasn't Alex who failed on these plays. The only play that could've put the game away and wouldn't have lead to the comeback drive was the one you keep harping on. We get it, it wasn't a pretty win but there was more than 1 culprit that made it a closer game than it should've been.
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Old 10-23-2014, 05:32 PM   #201
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come on guys... don't take your ball and go home. it's ok to not agree on shit.
You seem to be missing an important fact.

THIS is our home. Most of us have been here 5 - 10 years. Sorry that we have no patience for people that come here and act as if they own the place after being here a few months.

Sandy and his ilk are like that obnoxious friend of a friend that shows up on your doorstep one night with a sob story, needing a place to crash for the night.

Months later, they are still there - eating all your food, running up the phone bill, ordering pay-per-view, and leaving the place a ****ing wreck - ignoring the hints and flat out conversations that they aren't welcome, and having the balls to try to tell you how to run your home.
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your and idiot

You think there's a chance in hell that I would go through weeks of film and gif up plays in which to "prove" that Bowe was lazy?

Moss had an entire career of everyone pointing out his laziness... to the point where it was universally accepted.

Many "pure" Chiefs fans that don't even like Smith much have stated that Bowe is lazy.. right here and across other KC forums. Heck, there were articles last year of Bowe "looking like a slow TE"... remember those?

You really are one ignorant mother****er if you are going to stand behind this current position on Bowe.
Come on guys... does it always have to boil down to this level.
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Actually 5 games... Served the one game suspension. And I seem to remember more than 3 drops.
STATS, Inc is reporting 3 drops.

Sorry, I trust a professional statistic reporting service more than an Alex Smith fanboy.
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You seem to be missing an important fact.

THIS is our home. Most of us have been here 5 - 10 years. Sorry that we have no patience for people that come here and act as if they own the place after being here a few months.

Sandy and his ilk are like that obnoxious friend of a friend that shows up on your doorstep one night with a sob story, needing a place to crash for the night.

Months later, they are still there - eating all your food, running up the phone bill, ordering pay-per-view, and leaving the place a ****ing wreck - ignoring the hints and flat out conversations that they aren't welcome, and having the balls to try to tell you how to run your home.
It's not any of those things... it's an internet forum for people who want to talk about the Chiefs. Sandy fits that description. If you want a private club with the option to allow people in or kick people out, then make a new site and password protect it.
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STATS, Inc is reporting 3 drops.

Sorry, I trust a professional statistic reporting service more than an Alex Smith fanboy.
As you should. I just am interested now to go back and look to see why I'm personally remembering more than three. Good job though getting in yet another unnecessary dig since everyone insists on being so damned adversarial around here.
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Old 10-23-2014, 05:39 PM   #206
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Ok you guys are right he's a journeymen and should be utilizing all the all star weapons he has around him on the outside. His WRs are up there with the best of them and he should be ashamed of his production on the field.

He needs to learn to play to make plays.
I won't argue with that most of the weapons around are not all stars but does that make him any less a journeyman?

Yes he does not learn to make plays with his arm.

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It's not any of those things... it's an internet forum for people who want to talk about the Chiefs. Sandy fits that description. If you want a private club with the option to allow people in or kick people out, then make a new site and password protect it.
Actually, it is - but because the tags are still on your new KC gear, you don't get what this place is.

This place is more than an internet forum. 100's of us spend time with each other in real life, had each other in our homes, vacationed with each other - and many of us would/have give(n) the guys we know the shirts off our back.

Money has been raised for charities, guys go out of their way to help each other - it's MUCH more than an internet forum.

Your attitude - along with the constant, "if you don't like it, leave" from the "New Fan" contingent - is the ****ing problem here. You don't know shit about this team, this fanbase, or this "internet forum", yet y'all sure seem to act like you do.

Y'all are unwanted guests, but instead of gracefully leaving you dig in your heels and shit all over the rug.
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Y'all are unwanted guests, but instead of gracefully leaving you dig in your heels and shit all over the rug.
Use the ignore feature or stop being an asshole... both options will make us less irritating to you.
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Actually, it is - but because the tags are still on your new KC gear, you don't get what this place is.

This place is more than an internet forum. 100's of us spend time with each other in real life, had each other in our homes, vacationed with each other - and many of us would/have give(n) the guys we know the shirts off our back.

Money has been raised for charities, guys go out of their way to help each other - it's MUCH more than an internet forum.

Your attitude - along with the constant, "if you don't like it, leave" from the "New Fan" contingent - is the ****ing problem here. You don't know shit about this team, this fanbase, or this "internet forum", yet y'all sure seem to act like you do.

Y'all are unwanted guests, but instead of gracefully leaving you dig in your heels and shit all over the rug.
You mean my attitude of trying to keep the conversion respectful? That's what you think the problem is? Interesting. How does my being here and rooting for the chiefs success, along with Smith's continued success, disrupt your charitable efforts and shirt-giving gestures?
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