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Old 11-14-2008, 02:33 AM   Topic Starter
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Quantum of Solace is not as good as Casino Royale, that's first and foremost. The villain is pretty disappointing I must say, he's this skinny 105 lb white guy who isn't threatening or malicious at all, with a henchman who is even more gangly and funny looking. He's just a guy who belongs to "the organization" that Bond is after. You never really find out what Quantum of Solace means, you find out what Quantum is at the end, or at least something that resembles Quantum. I don't want to say this movie is bad, cause its not bad, but it's just not as good as it should have been. Olga Kurelynko is pretty hot though. Other than that it has the same ole M and Bond back and forth jokes, the same Bond charm, some good action scenes, and the ending leaves you inquiring more similar to Casino Royale. I thought the locations they went to were kind of boring looking too, they all seemed to kind of run together instead of having a different path. It's like run down South American village, to poor South American slums, to a nice villa in Cairo for a few seconds, then over to a desert.

Not to mention the opening song, which most have heard, is terribad.
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Old 11-14-2008, 11:25 AM   #2
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I'm planning on seeing this tomorrow.

From what I've read of the reviews, most complaints surround the critics missing the gadget-laden, martini-sipping, lounge lizard Bond, and lamenting the new, cold, rip your throat out with sneer Bond.

Well, I never gave a crap about the old Bond. Casino Royale (the new one) is the only Bond DVD I ever actually purchased. Glib British snobs with gadgets was never, shall we say, my cup of tea. I like the new guy.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:00 PM   #3
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I'm planning on seeing this tomorrow.

From what I've read of the reviews, most complaints surround the critics missing the gadget-laden, martini-sipping, lounge lizard Bond, and lamenting the new, cold, rip your throat out with sneer Bond.

Well, I never gave a crap about the old Bond. Casino Royale (the new one) is the only Bond DVD I ever actually purchased. Glib British snobs with gadgets was never, shall we say, my cup of tea. I like the new guy.
sounds like a move towards Borne. if that's the case, maybe I'll give it a try.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:05 PM   #4
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sounds like a move towards Borne. if that's the case, maybe I'll give it a try.
Yes, and I don't have a problem with that, except that you do need to break up the chases and fights with actual story elements occasionally.

And also, while I liked them, the Bourne movies are basically copies of each other.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:13 PM   #5
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Yeah still go see it and form your own opinion, it's still a good movie but it just let me down a little bit. The story from Casino Royale was more alluring, it grabbed you and brought you in only to leave you wanting more, this story grabs you but then lets go grabs you then lets go then towards the end grabs you and then leaves you wanting more. The movie just didn't keep my attention as much as Casino Royale did throughout the entire movie.
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Old 11-14-2008, 12:11 PM   #6
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I'm planning on seeing this tomorrow.

From what I've read of the reviews, most complaints surround the critics missing the gadget-laden, martini-sipping, lounge lizard Bond, and lamenting the new, cold, rip your throat out with sneer Bond.

Well, I never gave a crap about the old Bond. Casino Royale (the new one) is the only Bond DVD I ever actually purchased. Glib British snobs with gadgets was never, shall we say, my cup of tea. I like the new guy.
Ill try and catch it this weekend as well.

Loved CR and new direction they took with it.

I read in a story last week that Roger Moore didnt care much fo these new films. He said Bond was too violent and thuggish.
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:19 PM   #7
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Ill try and catch it this weekend as well.

Loved CR and new direction they took with it.

I read in a story last week that Roger Moore didnt care much fo these new films. He said Bond was too violent and thuggish.
Well, Roger Moore's James Bond was more like one of Monty Python's Upper Class Twits of the Year than someone you could actually buy pulling off superspy stuff. Screw him.
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Old 11-14-2008, 01:24 PM   #8
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Well, Roger Moore's James Bond was more like one of Monty Python's Upper Class Twits of the Year than someone you could actually buy pulling off superspy stuff. Screw him.
I liked Moores Bond because thats what i grew up with. I do realize alot of those flicks are pure cheese these days.

His best ones IMO are Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only.
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I liked Moores Bond because thats what i grew up with. I do realize alot of those flicks are pure cheese these days.

His best ones IMO are Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only.
Well, I liked those when I was a kid. Of course, I liked Lost In Space back then, too.
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I liked Moores Bond because thats what i grew up with. I do realize alot of those flicks are pure cheese these days.

His best ones IMO are Spy Who Loved Me and For Your Eyes Only.
Moore couldn't even touch Connery as Bond.
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I'm planning on seeing this tomorrow.

From what I've read of the reviews, most complaints surround the critics missing the gadget-laden, martini-sipping, lounge lizard Bond, and lamenting the new, cold, rip your throat out with sneer Bond.

Well, I never gave a crap about the old Bond. Casino Royale (the new one) is the only Bond DVD I ever actually purchased. Glib British snobs with gadgets was never, shall we say, my cup of tea. I like the new guy.
The "new" Bond that you described is the Bond the Ian Fleming created. The movie producers hijacked the original Bond and replaced him with the Roger Moore concoction that you aptly described. I like Fleming's original Bond.
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The "new" Bond that you described is the Bond the Ian Fleming created. The movie producers hijacked the original Bond and replaced him with the Roger Moore concoction that you aptly described. I like Fleming's original Bond.
I am starting to miss the classic Bondisms just a little bit.

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I think i remember reading that this reboot was supposed to be early Bond and how he is formed. Before he becomes the classic debonair British spy.

Which really doesnt make much sense in the grand scheme because Bond changes every 4 or 5 movies.
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Shaken not stirred (although there was a nod to it in this flick)
There was a nod in CR, too. The first time he orders a drink, he describes a vodka martini, then switches it up to the "Vesper".

Then later, after Vesper helped keep him alive from the poisoning where he comes in and orders a vodka martini and the bartender asks shaken or stirred. He replies "Does it look like I give a damn?" or something along those lines.
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http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/quantum_of_solace/

71% "certified fresh"

Consensus: Brutal and breathless, Quantum Of Solace delivers tender emotions along with frenetic action. Not as good as franchise reboot Casino Royale, but still an impressive entry to the Bond canon.

The gf and I are going to go soon to see it.
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