Tony Gonzalez's Value - Page 4

jspchief · 10-15-2006, 07:57 PM

Gonzo is up for a contract at the end of 2006. After watching him the last few years, I wonder what his value really is to this team. He seems to lack the playmaking ability he once had. Yea, he's still one of the best TEs in the game. But he's no longer a substitute for a WR like he has been for us over the years. He's not particularly fast, he doesn't break a lot of tackles, and to be honest he doesn't have the greatest hands anymore. He's not some nightmare for defensive coordinators any longer.

I'm just beginning to wonder how much he's really worth to this team. In the past he was a guy you could rely on when other facets of our offense struggled. Now he's just another piece that only seems to work when everything else is working.

If Gonzo comes looking for a contract that puts him in the top 5 of the pay scale for TEs, is he still worth it?

Chiefnj · 10-16-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Paying him a huge contract is part of the reason we don't have a #1 WR seeing as he thought he should be paid like he was one, let's see if he still thinks that. Personally if I have my choice I'd rather pay a WR than a TE, especially an aging TE that is visably declining.

In your scenario which #1 WR free agent is going to get Tony's share of the money, and which TE are you going to replace him with?

Mecca · 10-16-2006, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

In your scenario which #1 WR free agent is going to get Tony's share of the money, and which TE are you going to replace him with?

Well......I just wouldn't pay him huge money. I think the Chiefs are goig to be in position to draft Calvin Johnson or Dwayne Jarrett this year, probably Jarrett. Both of those guys will be excellent NFL WR's. Getting a productive TE isn't near as difficult now as it was when we drafted Tony. I'd consider going with a guy in the 2nd or 3rd or hell going with Dunn for a year.

jspchief · 10-16-2006, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

... and which TE are you going to replace him with?

No one. Kris Wilson. Anybody.

It's not like a stud TE is the key piece to a Superbowl team.

The threat of Gonzo used to allow us to get away with subpar receivers. But gonzo is no longer the same threat that he used to be, and our mediocre receivers are getting exposed by it. We have to have a receiving threat on this team, or LJ is going to continue to see 8 and 9 man boxes.

Luzap · 10-16-2006, 10:39 AM

If we could resign him to a decent contract with low up front (bonus) money, there has to be another team out there that feels like he could be the missing piece for their playoff run.

Tony would be mad; KC fans would be mad, but personally I think we should see if we couldn't get a first for him this comming offseason. I don't buy into the idea that his skills have declined that much, and we could make a point to showcasing him in the second half of the season.

If we're going to rebuild, let's rebuild.

Luz
who else has trade value???...

kregger · 10-16-2006, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

Good LTs are traded about as often as franchise qbs.

And sometimes they are let go as free agents.
Dammit Carl !!

Chiefnj · 10-16-2006, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Well......I just wouldn't pay him huge money. I think the Chiefs are goig to be in position to draft Calvin Johnson or Dwayne Jarrett this year, probably Jarrett. Both of those guys will be excellent NFL WR's. Getting a productive TE isn't near as difficult now as it was when we drafted Tony. I'd consider going with a guy in the 2nd or 3rd or hell going with Dunn for a year.

So you'd be okay using a 1st and 2nd, or 1st and 3rd round pick on WR and TE.

Mr. Laz · 10-16-2006, 11:14 AM

i want to keep tony

but the reality is that you usually don't want to give big contracts to guys over 30.

tony has also shown a drop in speed since his foot injury ..... he's not going to be getting any faster.

linebackers can now turn and run with him step for step.

beware the big contract

10-15-2006, 07:57 PM
jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	Tony Gonzalez's Value Gonzo is up for a contract at the end of 2006. After watching him the last few years, I wonder what his value really is to this team. He seems to lack the playmaking ability he once had. Yea, he's still one of the best TEs in the game. But he's no longer a substitute for a WR like he has been for us over the years. He's not particularly fast, he doesn't break a lot of tackles, and to be honest he doesn't have the greatest hands anymore. He's not some nightmare for defensive coordinators any longer. I'm just beginning to wonder how much he's really worth to this team. In the past he was a guy you could rely on when other facets of our offense struggled. Now he's just another piece that only seems to work when everything else is working. If Gonzo comes looking for a contract that puts him in the top 5 of the pay scale for TEs, is he still worth it?
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Luzap 9.89 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $10004900	If we could resign him to a decent contract with low up front (bonus) money, there has to be another team out there that feels like he could be the missing piece for their playoff run. Tony would be mad; KC fans would be mad, but personally I think we should see if we couldn't get a first for him this comming offseason. I don't buy into the idea that his skills have declined that much, and we could make a point to showcasing him in the second half of the season. If we're going to rebuild, let's rebuild. Luz who else has trade value???...
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Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	i want to keep tony but the reality is that you usually don't want to give big contracts to guys over 30. tony has also shown a drop in speed since his foot injury ..... he's not going to be getting any faster. linebackers can now turn and run with him step for step. beware the big contract __________________
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