Chiefs Drafting DeCastro at 11th overall, really?

Buckweath · 03-21-2012, 09:50 AM

In 2010 and 2011, The Chiefs respectively selected Jon Asamoah as the 68th overall pick and Rodney Hudson as the 55th overall pick. Both guys, especially Asamoah have shown that they can potentially become among the best guards (or center in Hudson`s case) in the league. As a matter of fact, I have seen an analyst rank Asamoah as the 8th best guard in the NFL in 2011.

This makes it pretty clear in my mind that Pioli can find good guard prospects in round 2 or beyond. Now why do so many of you want to draft DeCastro with a high 1st round pick, even if the guy is one of the best guard prospect in recent times? Seriously, DeCastro wouldn`t compensate for Cassell`s deficiencies and IMO no matter how good of an Oline we try to build, our offense will always be limited with Cassell under center, even if we are to have the best Oline in the NFL.

Now it`s not impossible that our defense becomes the best in the league as soon as this year and thus our 1st round pick should definitly be a defensive prospect.

Gravedigger · 03-21-2012, 09:54 AM

Decastro at G Asamoah at G Hudson at C for the next half a decade... What's so hard to see?

suds79 · 03-21-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Decastro at G Asamoah at G Hudson at C for the next half a decade... What's so hard to see?

I think his point was you could also say

(any mid round Guard), Asamoah at G Hudson at C for the next half a decade.

**The Franchise** · 03-21-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Decastro at G Asamoah at G Hudson at C for the next half a decade... What's so hard to see?

You can grab an OG in the 2nd-3rd round range.

**Saul Good** · 03-21-2012, 10:00 AM

I'm not sure how I feel about moving Hudson to C.

Hoover · 03-21-2012, 10:02 AM

We are going to be a running team that uses play action to make Cassel look like a legit QB. To do that we need an outstanding oline. Decastro would give us that.

Besides that who else are we going to draft at 11?

I think a top 12 pick should start day one. So what starting positions do we have available?

WR? - Nope
RB - Nope
OT- Nope
QB - Sure, but there will not be a starting QB to draft.
OG - Yes
C - Yes, if we move Hudson to G.
TE - Nope
FB - Whatever

Defense

DLine - Yes, but draft doesn't have a guy who fits our system that would warrant that high of a pick.

LB - Maybe, kind of like the OG position, could find way to improve.

CB - Nope - Need depth, not starters.
S - Nope -Need depth, not starters.

I see our needs as OG, DLine, NT, LB because thats were we could plug someone in.

Hoover · 03-21-2012, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I'm not sure how I feel about moving Hudson to C.

Then you need Kontz at the bottom of RD 1.

**Dave Lane** · 03-21-2012, 10:03 AM

The good / bad news is we are set at a ton of positions. So unless you want to reach for Tannehill at #11 I don't know where to go thats better. A trade down would be most awesome. If we could trade down to top of the 2nd for a extra first next year that would be a fantastic possibility to get a good QB.

Richardson at #11 would be better but I'm betting he's gone.

Micjones · 03-21-2012, 10:04 AM

We can draft a Guard in the Middle Rounds.

ModSocks · 03-21-2012, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Decastro at G Asamoah at G Hudson at C for the next half a decade... What's so hard to see?

I agree. I wouldn't have a problem with it, really. I know others would a have a problem with the whole positional value thing, but with this roster being at the point that it's at, i don't feel like that's as important as it was in years past.

If DeCastro is the best player on your board and he fits a position of need, then go for it.

Poe isn't worthy of #11 and even Tannehill is a reach, though I'd welcome that pick as well for obvious reasons.

This is the first draft in a long time where i can say i don't really care what the Chiefs do as long it's not a significant reach ala Tyson Jackson.

suds79 · 03-21-2012, 10:08 AM

Honestly you'd be better off simply taking the best available pass rusher vs a Guard IMO.

They just don't matter all that much and can be found in the mid rounds.

But I'd like to see the Chiefs trade down more than anything.

Hoover · 03-21-2012, 10:08 AM

I think Richardson and Tannehill are gone by 11.

As for the "get a guard later" argument. The FA market for top guards actually justifies the pick.

**Saul Good** · 03-21-2012, 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover

Then you need Kontz at the bottom of RD 1.

I would be good with moving down for him.

What's the opinion of Hudson? Is he a better G or C?

**The Franchise** · 03-21-2012, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I would be good with moving down for him.

What's the opinion of Hudson? Is he a better G or C?

Honestly....I'd rather leave him at G. He played guard in college and he did well when he played guard last year. Trade down if you can and draft Konz.

suds79 · 03-21-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

I would be good with moving down for him.

What's the opinion of Hudson? Is he a better G or C?

I don't think anybody has seen enough of him to know. I'm not all that concerned with it to be honest. We know he's starting next year.

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Buckweath Veteran Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Quebec, Canada Casino cash: $9994975	Drafting DeCastro at 11th overall, really? In 2010 and 2011, The Chiefs respectively selected Jon Asamoah as the 68th overall pick and Rodney Hudson as the 55th overall pick. Both guys, especially Asamoah have shown that they can potentially become among the best guards (or center in Hudson`s case) in the league. As a matter of fact, I have seen an analyst rank Asamoah as the 8th best guard in the NFL in 2011. This makes it pretty clear in my mind that Pioli can find good guard prospects in round 2 or beyond. Now why do so many of you want to draft DeCastro with a high 1st round pick, even if the guy is one of the best guard prospect in recent times? Seriously, DeCastro wouldn`t compensate for Cassell`s deficiencies and IMO no matter how good of an Oline we try to build, our offense will always be limited with Cassell under center, even if we are to have the best Oline in the NFL. Now it`s not impossible that our defense becomes the best in the league as soon as this year and thus our 1st round pick should definitly be a defensive prospect.
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Hoover Rufus Dawes Jr. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $1678179	We are going to be a running team that uses play action to make Cassel look like a legit QB. To do that we need an outstanding oline. Decastro would give us that. Besides that who else are we going to draft at 11? I think a top 12 pick should start day one. So what starting positions do we have available? WR? - Nope RB - Nope OT- Nope QB - Sure, but there will not be a starting QB to draft. OG - Yes C - Yes, if we move Hudson to G. TE - Nope FB - Whatever Defense DLine - Yes, but draft doesn't have a guy who fits our system that would warrant that high of a pick. LB - Maybe, kind of like the OG position, could find way to improve. CB - Nope - Need depth, not starters. S - Nope -Need depth, not starters. I see our needs as OG, DLine, NT, LB because thats were we could plug someone in.
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03-21-2012, 10:08 AM	#11
suds79 MVP Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $10005036	Honestly you'd be better off simply taking the best available pass rusher vs a Guard IMO. They just don't matter all that much and can be found in the mid rounds. But I'd like to see the Chiefs trade down more than anything.
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