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Old 01-11-2013, 01:34 PM   #1
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Trent Green was the exact opposite.

He knew how to read a defense and where his guy would be and THAT made him accurate...
Reading defenses doesnt' make you accurate. You can know where to throw it, but if you aren't accurate, it doesn't matter.


Green was extremely accurate and could read defenses.

A guy like Wilson is good at reading d's but isn't as accurate.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:35 PM   #2
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Reading defenses doesnt' make you accurate.
Ok, yer' right...
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:36 PM   #3
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Ok, yer' right...
He is. It's mechanics.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:39 PM   #4
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I've thought the Chiefs may trade back to someone who needs a LT or DT to get a top 10 pick this year, a first next season and the trade the second round pick for a first next season and later second or thord this year. We go into 2013 with 3 first rounders eithe the ability to take whoever we want. If there's no obvious QB next year we do it again and have 5 first rounders in 2014.

Because draft picks are more valuable than players.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:50 PM   #5
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If the Chiefs draft Geno, Wilson, Barkley #1, everyone is going to say "woo hoo! We got our man!" Even if it isn't Geno, people will say "I trust Reid's evaluation."

After the Combine, Senior Bowl, and pro days, we might be adding Murray or Bray or both to that list.

So, if the Chiefs trade down, or if they select jarvis jones or even a mother ****ing defensive tackle, but still get one of those guys after trading back up or having him fall to the second, then I am going to be fine.

Let's all pray that people get scared off Geno. Best case scenario is he falls to us at 33, isn't it? Isn't that the best case scenario?

I'm not going to freak out about any of this until the day of the draft. Then I'll go full reerun.
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:53 PM   #6
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If the Chiefs draft Geno, Wilson, Barkley #1, everyone is going to say "woo hoo! We got our man!" Even if it isn't Geno, people will say "I trust Reid's evaluation."

After the Combine, Senior Bowl, and pro days, we might be adding Murray or Bray or both to that list.

So, if the Chiefs trade down, or if they select jarvis jones or even a mother ****ing defensive tackle, but still get one of those guys after trading back up or having him fall to the second, then I am going to be fine.

Let's all pray that people get scared off Geno. Best case scenario is he falls to us at 33, isn't it? Isn't that the best case scenario?

I'm not going to freak out about any of this until the day of the draft. Then I'll go full reerun.
Murray's didn't declare. I don't think Reid will put his offense in the hands of Tyler Bray, a 21 year old kid with maturity issues. If he does select Bray, expect a stop-gap QB for at least a year, if not two.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:01 AM   #7
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Murray didn't declare. I don't think Reid will put his offense in the hands of Tyler Bray, a 21 year old kid with maturity issues. If he does select Bray, expect a stop-gap QB for at least a year, if not two.
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Old 09-02-2013, 02:03 AM   #8
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:54 PM   #9
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If the Chiefs draft Geno, Wilson, Barkley #1, everyone is going to say "woo hoo! We got our man!" Even if it isn't Geno, people will say "I trust Reid's evaluation."

After the Combine, Senior Bowl, and pro days, we might be adding Murray or Bray or both to that list.

So, if the Chiefs trade down, or if they select jarvis jones or even a mother ****ing defensive tackle, but still get one of those guys after trading back up or having him fall to the second, then I am going to be fine.

Let's all pray that people get scared off Geno. Best case scenario is he falls to us at 33, isn't it? Isn't that the best case scenario?

I'm not going to freak out about any of this until the day of the draft. Then I'll go full reerun.
murray isn't coming out
smith isn't dropping to 33

bray?

you're pretty close to full reerun already

how about we just draft the best qb?
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Old 01-11-2013, 01:59 PM   #10
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murray isn't coming out
smith isn't dropping to 33

bray?

you're pretty close to full reerun already

how about we just draft the best qb?
Didn't know that about Murray, and as my grandpappy used to tell me, "the less a man makes declarative statements, the less likely he is to look like a fool in retrospect."

I don't mean Bray at #1, I mean at #33.

And Smith could fall. Anything is possible right now. They haven't done any medical evals or anything. He could have a nagging shoulder injury that no one knew about. He could get a DUI. Justin Houston was a first rounder until the combine.

don't get ahead of yourself.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:00 PM   #11
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Smith's biggest knock seems to be a gunslinger mentality that contributes to poor accuracy on intermediate and deep throws
Wow, just wow. If anything Geno is one of the most accurate deep ball passers I have seen. I don't know how people come up with this stuff.

Sure Austin/Woods/Bailey are good-great receivers, but holy hell if a WR makes a QB good, then every team should be drafting WR's in the top 10 and just plug some guy in at QB.
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Old 01-11-2013, 02:01 PM   #12
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Wow, just wow. If anything Geno is one of the most accurate deep ball passers I have seen. I don't know how people come up with this stuff.

Sure Austin/Woods/Bailey are good-great receivers, but holy hell if a WR makes a QB good, then every team should be drafting WR's in the top 10 and just plug some guy in at QB.
I quoted it because it was striking...and apparently only one misguided critics crappy opinion, I guess.
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I quoted it because it was striking...and apparently only one misguided critics crappy opinion, I guess.
Yeah, I wasn't coming down on you for that... I know you were just quoting someone else there.

Regardless, I don't know what games that guy was watching. You can see beautiful deep chocolate balls in almost every Geno game this season.
And you won't see many inaccurate incompletions, considering his completion % is so high.
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Yeah, I wasn't coming down on you for that... I know you were just quoting someone else there.

Regardless, I don't know what games that guy was watching. You can see beautiful deep chocolate balls in almost every Geno game this season.
And you won't see many inaccurate incompletions, considering his completion % is so high.
Walter references it a bit here:

Smith's plus mobility allows him to pick up first downs with his feet and bail out his offensive line. He needs to work on sustaining drives as he struggled when Texas Tech and Kansas State took away the deep part of the field. Smith will need to improve his footwork for the NFL. He needs to become more uniform with good feet to get in rhythm.
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Regardless, I don't know what games that guy was watching. You can see beautiful deep chocolate balls in almost every Geno game this season.
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