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Old 05-11-2014, 11:50 AM  
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Jeff Flanagan: "Tyler Bray slow to grasp pro system"
http://msn.foxsports.com/kansas-city...-murray-051014

In a puff piece on Aaron Murray, an interesting tidbit:

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The Chiefs already have starter Alex Smith, backup Chase Daniel and developmental quarterback Tyler Bray.

The Chiefs could save $1.4 million if they were to release Daniel. Bray, though, seems the most vulnerable. Although the Chiefs love his arm strength, he was slow to grasp the pro system.

Murray likely won't have those issues since he already has played in a pro passing system at Georgia.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:52 AM   #211
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Unless you're already quitting on your season, you don't get rid of the player who gives you the best chance to win if Smith goes down. And you don't just expect a rookie to beat out the established player without actually seeing real signs of it.

Seems simple.
Elementary, even.

As for why it matters he went undrafted, here's why it matters to me:

Bray has picture perfect physical abilities for his position in the NFL, and he was shitty enough at all the other aspects of things he went undrafted in one of the weakest NFL drafts in recent memory.

Even with a staff with a strong history of working with QBs, I'm skeptical those massive flaws can be overcome.
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:54 AM   #212
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My Bray summary:

Reincarnation of Elvis Grbac. If you're willing to suffer through several years of boneheaded play, he might develop into a serviceable starter but he's unlikely to ever be a devoted student of the game and he just might decide to bail on you rather than re-sign just about the time your investment is starting to pay off.

I don't care about drafting a QB. I'm fine with getting a QB through any means whether it's 1st round pick, late round developmental flyer, UDFA, trade, high priced free agent, etc. Tyler Bray just hasn't shown any sign, going back to his college career, that he's the field general and leader that I want behind my center. If the Chiefs coaching staff can turn him around, that's great, but I'm not optimistic. So watch where you're pointing that "you guys".
You have no goddamn clue about Bray showing any sign of anything. Year one in a new system at the NFL level as the #3 QB. Your "optimism" or lack thereof is so premature you need to put it in an incubator on oxygen.

Oh noes!!!! Aaron Rogers didn't beat out Favre again this year?! Release him!!
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Old 05-14-2014, 09:58 AM   #213
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You have no goddamn clue about Bray showing any sign of anything. Year one in a new system at the NFL level as the #3 QB. Your "optimism" or lack thereof is so premature you need to put it in an incubator on oxygen.

Oh noes!!!! Aaron Rogers didn't beat out Favre again this year?! Release him!!
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You have no goddamn clue about Bray showing any sign of anything. Year one in a new system at the NFL level as the #3 QB. Your "optimism" or lack thereof is so premature you need to put it in an incubator on oxygen.

Oh noes!!!! Aaron Rogers didn't beat out Favre again this year?! Release him!!
Bray demonstrated his boneheadedness for 3 years at Tennessee.

I get it though. You've fallen in love with his strong arm and you've got a thing for the way he vacantly stares into your eyes when you gaze upon his publicity photos.
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Bray demonstrated his boneheadedness for 3 years at Tennessee.

I get it though. You've fallen in love with his strong arm and you've got a thing for the way he vacantly stares into your eyes when you gaze upon his publicity photos.
Yeah.

If you watched the guy play much at Tennessee (and saw him struggle to consistently make good decisions and accurate throws when playing in a very QB friendly system that basically asked him to read one side of the field only on each play), I think skepticism must follow.
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Midget game manager with average arm and athleticism with durability concerns, but his teammates think he's a swell guy. NFL Comparison: Poor Man's Chase Daniel
Come on. Does Chase Daniel have anywhere near average NFL arm strength? If Murray does, calling him a poor man's Chase Daniel is ridiculous.
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I think most are missing the reason why KC drafted Murray....They are planning to release Daniel in 2015. Murray is a cheap alternative. This was a salary cap pick.

There is no way the Chiefs face the NFC West without an experienced backup this season. They obviously don't think Bray is going to pan out into a #2...
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I think most are missing the reason why KC drafted Murray....They are planning to release Daniel in 2015. Murray is a cheap alternative. This was a salary cap pick.

There is no way the Chiefs face the NFC West without an experienced backup this season. They obviously don't think Bray is going to pan out into a #2...
Only grown men who like to touch underage boys on their private parts feel Bray is a legit NFL prospect.
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Jon Gruden is far from a football genius, but if there's one thing his QB Camp shows do, it's take people inside what an NFL team sees in terms of a prospect's personality, coachability, and temperament when they do pre-draft interviews. And more often than not, the QBs that seem impressive in these one-on-ones (Luck, RGIII, Wilson, Cousins to name a few) wind up finding at least some success at the next level, even if it's only spare.

Tyler Bray's QB camp interview was the worst one I've seen since Gruden started doing that show.

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You have no goddamn clue about Bray showing any sign of anything. Year one in a new system at the NFL level as the #3 QB. Your "optimism" or lack thereof is so premature you need to put it in an incubator on oxygen.

Oh noes!!!! Aaron Rogers didn't beat out Favre again this year?! Release him!!
So you compare an UDFA to a 1st round pick that most experts felt had fallen much lower than expected? Not to mention that Rodgers was sitting behind a HOF QB, and all time great that was still playing better than most. Seems like a fair comparison.
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