The Eagles are imploding..

**dirk digler** · 04-30-2005, 10:44 AM

I think their run is over.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2049794

QB: 'Just keep my name out of your mouth'
Associated Press
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McNabb reacts to T.O.'s missing camp ESPN Motion

PHILADELPHIA -- With Terrell Owens absent, Donovan McNabb didn't miss his target.

While Owens skipped Philadelphia's first mini-camp practice on Friday, McNabb responded sternly to the All-Pro wide receiver's stinging comments about the quarterback's performance in the Eagles' 24-21 loss to New England in the Super Bowl.

"I don't play games in the media," McNabb said. "I'm not going to sit here and try to have a war of words. I'm a man at what I do. If there's a problem with anyone, and they feel the need to lash out, they know how to get in touch with me and we can handle it like men."

Owens -- who is holding out, presumably because he wants a new contract -- took a verbal shot at McNabb in an interview earlier this month. Some Eagles said McNabb was so ill in the fourth quarter against the Patriots that he couldn't call one play in the huddle.

"I played every snap they allowed me to play," Owens told ESPN.com. "I wasn't even running until, like, two weeks before the game. But I made sure I was in the best shape possible. I wasn't the guy who got tired in the Super Bowl."

McNabb, who made a recruiting pitch to get Owens to Philadelphia before last season, insisted he wasn't tired or sick in the final minutes against New England, though it appeared at one point he was either coughing or struggling to catch his breath.

"If you say I was winded, if you say the [offensive] line was winded, if you say the defense was winded, that's fine," McNabb said. "But to be tired and dropping to a knee, that didn't happen."

Without mentioning Owens, McNabb had strong advice for his most loquacious teammate.

"Just keep my name out of your mouth," McNabb said. "Don't try to throw names or guys under the bus to better yourself. You never heard me say any names in any situation. You never heard me talk about any given players. I'm the guy to be professional and be a man about things."

McNabb said he hasn't spoken to Owens since hearing the inflammatory comments.

"If a comment was made about me, it would take that person to call me," he said. "I don't have to reach out to anyone."

The soap opera atmosphere surrounding the NFC champions is a stunning turnaround from the calm environment the Eagles are used to. Contract disputes also kept Pro Bowl running back Brian Westbrook and defensive tackle Corey Simon at home, and wideout Freddie Mitchell wasn't welcome at camp.

"I told him I did not want him here," Eagles coach Andy Reid said of Mitchell, the former first-round pick who has talked himself out of town by constantly griping about his role in the offense.

Owens' holdout could extend deep into training camp, which starts in late July. He said several times this month he wants to renegotiate the seven-year deal he signed last March. The Eagles have refused to redo the contract worth nearly $49 million.

"If he's here, he's here. If he's not, he's not," Reid said. "We have an understanding here that if you're not here, we move on without you. We have been very successful doing that, so we don't waste a lot of time worrying about those things."

The flamboyant Owens helped the Eagles reach the Super Bowl in his first season in Philadelphia after eight years with the San Francisco 49ers. Owens set team records with 14 touchdown receptions and seven 100-yard games and finished with 77 catches for 1,200 yards.

Owens broke his leg and severely sprained his right ankle in Week 15 against Dallas, an injury that sidelined him until the Super Bowl. He had nine catches for 122 yards after defying his doctor's advice and playing against the Patriots.

McNabb said he wouldn't have a problem playing with Owens if he returns to the Eagles.

"When I'm on the field, it doesn't matter who I'm throwing it to," he said. "If I'm throwing it to you, you can catch it. If you catch the ball, you get first downs and that's what I'm happy about. What bothers me is when you get out, lash out and say whatever."

Westbrook has until June 15 to sign a one-year, $1.43 million tender. He's seeking a long-term deal, but discussions haven't been promising. Simon was offered a one-year franchise tender worth about $5.13 million, but he also wants a long-term contract.

Westbrook had a breakout season for the Eagles, scoring nine touchdowns and leading the team with 1,515 total yards. He rushed for 812 yards on 177 carries and led all NFL running backs in receptions with 73 for 703 yards last season.

Simon, who went to the Pro Bowl two years ago, overcame a poor start to finish with 5{ sacks and 34 tackles last year. The Eagles considered trading him this offseason, but talks with Baltimore broke down.

**Bowser** · 04-30-2005, 10:51 AM

Good for them.

For me, the Eagles have turned into the Bills of the early 90's. I'm sick of hearing and seeing about them. They need a good 6-10 season.

And I would send Andy Reid the BBQ of his choice if the Eagles traded TO either to Baltimore or back to San Fran. Won't ever happen, but God that would be great!

**dirk digler** · 04-30-2005, 10:52 AM

TO is a self centered bitch.

Sure-Oz · 04-30-2005, 10:53 AM

TO is such a great talent too bad he's an idiot in many ways.

jspchief · 04-30-2005, 10:54 AM

It's too bad the Eagles have so much money invested in Owens. I'd love to see them enforce the entire seven years of his contract, sitting him on the bench for the entire time, kind of like what Vampire Davis did to Marcus Allen. I have to think removing him from the spotlight might be the harshest thing you could do to that prima donna ass.

**Baby Lee** · 04-30-2005, 10:54 AM

TO: "I can't catch the ball AND throw it too."

MichaelH · 04-30-2005, 11:00 AM

You can't tell me Andy Reid didn't know he was locker room cancer before he was signed. TO is a lot like Moss, lots of talent but too much of a headache to have on your team.

2bikemike · 04-30-2005, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

It's too bad the Eagles have so much money invested in Owens. I'd love to see them enforce the entire seven years of his contract, sitting him on the bench for the entire time, kind of like what Vampire Davis did to Marcus Allen. I have to think removing him from the spotlight might be the harshest thing you could do to that prima donna ass.

I agree. I hope like hell they don't pay his ass!

philfree · 04-30-2005, 11:01 AM

TOs agent is saying TO is the best player in football and he should be paid like it and he deserves a new contract. IMO the best player in the NFL wouldn't act like such a jerk and would be more of team type of guy. And there's more to being a team guy then what happens on the field practice or playing. If he really was a team player he'd restructure so the Eagles could could get Simon re-signed so they could make another run at a Champship. Because of him their run will be over and they still didn't win it all.

Red Rover, Red Rover send Corey on over!

PhilFree

Brock · 04-30-2005, 11:01 AM

Reid's a highly overrated coach also. Belichick flat out made him look like a moron in the super bowl.

**Nzoner** · 04-30-2005, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 2bikemike

I agree. I hope like hell they don't pay his ass!

Like they said on NFL Network this morning,"TO they gotta feed the family."

I posted this last night in a related thread but I rarely talk bad about players(not counting a few Broncos and Raiders)but it'd been for the best if the uppity focker would've just shattered his leg ending his career and giving everyone some peace and quiet.

**dirk digler** · 04-30-2005, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

It's too bad the Eagles have so much money invested in Owens. I'd love to see them enforce the entire seven years of his contract, sitting him on the bench for the entire time, kind of like what Vampire Davis did to Marcus Allen. I have to think removing him from the spotlight might be the harshest thing you could do to that prima donna ass.

Great idea jsp! If he did decide to come back after Game 10 I would bench his ass the rest of the season.

Braincase · 04-30-2005, 11:12 AM

I hope McNabb throws TO under a bus.

**Nzoner** · 04-30-2005, 11:16 AM

Hopefully Moss is monitoring this and is formulating a plan in his devious mind not be outdone by TO

Demonpenz · 04-30-2005, 11:19 AM

i can't even spin this one

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dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $3274644	The Eagles are imploding.. I think their run is over. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2049794 QB: 'Just keep my name out of your mouth' Associated Press Related Video: McNabb reacts to T.O.'s missing camp ESPN Motion PHILADELPHIA -- With Terrell Owens absent, Donovan McNabb didn't miss his target. While Owens skipped Philadelphia's first mini-camp practice on Friday, McNabb responded sternly to the All-Pro wide receiver's stinging comments about the quarterback's performance in the Eagles' 24-21 loss to New England in the Super Bowl. "I don't play games in the media," McNabb said. "I'm not going to sit here and try to have a war of words. I'm a man at what I do. If there's a problem with anyone, and they feel the need to lash out, they know how to get in touch with me and we can handle it like men." Owens -- who is holding out, presumably because he wants a new contract -- took a verbal shot at McNabb in an interview earlier this month. Some Eagles said McNabb was so ill in the fourth quarter against the Patriots that he couldn't call one play in the huddle. "I played every snap they allowed me to play," Owens told ESPN.com. "I wasn't even running until, like, two weeks before the game. But I made sure I was in the best shape possible. I wasn't the guy who got tired in the Super Bowl." McNabb, who made a recruiting pitch to get Owens to Philadelphia before last season, insisted he wasn't tired or sick in the final minutes against New England, though it appeared at one point he was either coughing or struggling to catch his breath. "If you say I was winded, if you say the [offensive] line was winded, if you say the defense was winded, that's fine," McNabb said. "But to be tired and dropping to a knee, that didn't happen." Without mentioning Owens, McNabb had strong advice for his most loquacious teammate. "Just keep my name out of your mouth," McNabb said. "Don't try to throw names or guys under the bus to better yourself. You never heard me say any names in any situation. You never heard me talk about any given players. I'm the guy to be professional and be a man about things." McNabb said he hasn't spoken to Owens since hearing the inflammatory comments. "If a comment was made about me, it would take that person to call me," he said. "I don't have to reach out to anyone." The soap opera atmosphere surrounding the NFC champions is a stunning turnaround from the calm environment the Eagles are used to. Contract disputes also kept Pro Bowl running back Brian Westbrook and defensive tackle Corey Simon at home, and wideout Freddie Mitchell wasn't welcome at camp. "I told him I did not want him here," Eagles coach Andy Reid said of Mitchell, the former first-round pick who has talked himself out of town by constantly griping about his role in the offense. Owens' holdout could extend deep into training camp, which starts in late July. He said several times this month he wants to renegotiate the seven-year deal he signed last March. The Eagles have refused to redo the contract worth nearly $49 million. "If he's here, he's here. If he's not, he's not," Reid said. "We have an understanding here that if you're not here, we move on without you. We have been very successful doing that, so we don't waste a lot of time worrying about those things." The flamboyant Owens helped the Eagles reach the Super Bowl in his first season in Philadelphia after eight years with the San Francisco 49ers. Owens set team records with 14 touchdown receptions and seven 100-yard games and finished with 77 catches for 1,200 yards. Owens broke his leg and severely sprained his right ankle in Week 15 against Dallas, an injury that sidelined him until the Super Bowl. He had nine catches for 122 yards after defying his doctor's advice and playing against the Patriots. McNabb said he wouldn't have a problem playing with Owens if he returns to the Eagles. "When I'm on the field, it doesn't matter who I'm throwing it to," he said. "If I'm throwing it to you, you can catch it. If you catch the ball, you get first downs and that's what I'm happy about. What bothers me is when you get out, lash out and say whatever." Westbrook has until June 15 to sign a one-year, $1.43 million tender. He's seeking a long-term deal, but discussions haven't been promising. Simon was offered a one-year franchise tender worth about $5.13 million, but he also wants a long-term contract. Westbrook had a breakout season for the Eagles, scoring nine touchdowns and leading the team with 1,515 total yards. He rushed for 812 yards on 177 carries and led all NFL running backs in receptions with 73 for 703 yards last season. Simon, who went to the Pro Bowl two years ago, overcame a poor start to finish with 5{ sacks and 34 tackles last year. The Eagles considered trading him this offseason, but talks with Baltimore broke down.
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