Chiefs Alex Smith did, does, and will always suck. - Page 298

Sandy Vagina · 09-19-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

KC supporters? It's 49er jerkoffs that very few want here anyways. I'm just a soldier for the cause

No. You are a butthurt pussy that just wants to resist the success that Reid and Co. are bringing you. All because? Things didn't go your way.

you =

Quit being a disgruntled pussy and just enjoy the ride. Life's too short to hang onto such bitterness and rectal bleeding.

Alex Smiff · 09-19-2013, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

another look at career stats... w/o regard to this team's past coaching and personnel misery... w/o regard to the way the 49ers were built... and that they were very ill suited in the first place to come back from large deficits...

Oh, we have a special kind of morning so far.

So let me get this straight. The bad W-L record you have the audacity to look at all of the factors on the team that contributed to that bad record. But the good WL record, you completely abandon that analysis?

BigCatDaddy · 09-19-2013, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

No. You are a butthurt pussy that just wants to resist the success that Reid and Co. are bringing you. All because? Things didn't go your way.

you =

Quit being a disgruntled pussy and just enjoy the ride. Life's too short to hang onto such bitterness and rectal bleeding.

**** yeah! That 2-0 record with a win over the Jags and a 1 point win at home over a medicore team. Let the good times roll baby! We went from suck to average!

Meanwhile Manuel is orchestrating game winning TD drives in the final minute of a game while our #1 overall pick RT is getting his ass handed to him like a 9ers fan in this thread. No reason to be upset, none at all.

**Bearcat** · 09-19-2013, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

**** yeah! That 2-0 record with a win over the Jags and a 1 point win at home over a medicore team. Let the good times roll baby! We went from suck to average!

I know I was entertained watching a game that was basically over at halftime, followed by a struggle against a mediocre team. Best $200 not spent.

Tonight should be fun though, and next week as well. Well, not in this thread, but on TV.

mike_b_284 · 09-19-2013, 11:10 AM

I have been gone for a while, and not seen this thread develop. Can someone give me the bullet points, as I am not trying to read all 300 pgs. Particularly, what is the suggested alternative to Alex Smith. Cassel? Geno Smith? I am happy with 34td to 10int since week 1 2011.

BigCatDaddy · 09-19-2013, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

I know I was entertained watching a game that was basically over at halftime, followed by a struggle against a mediocre team. Best $200 not spent.

Tonight should be fun though, and next week as well. Well, not in this thread, but on TV.

It beats the hell out of last year, but I've seen this before. It looks early similar to MartyBall(Pre Joe) only instead of 3 yards and a cloud of dust it's a short passing game. Don't beat yourself by turning it over, play solid defense and special teams, beat the shit teams and average teams when at home lose to the good teams.

O.city · 09-19-2013, 11:14 AM

How you guys are getting that the cowboys are a mediocre team is beyond me. I'm guessing it makes your argument sound better, but that's absolutely a good team.

It's a top 5 type offense with a better than average defense

NinerDoug · 09-19-2013, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Well he does have a 2-27-1 record when the other team scores 24 or more so the track record isn't good when the other side put up some points. Let's hope that changes.

Pam Oliver's Forehead has had that stat up for a while. (Anyone know where there is an easily retrievable database to compare quarterbacks, without going through each QBs record, game by game, season by season?)

I was looking at Peyton Mannings record from last season:

http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmann...gs?season=2012

I count 5 games where the other team scored 24 points or more.

Peyton's record in that situation from 2012 is 1 win, 4 losses, including the loss in the playoffs.

He did better in 2010:

http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmann...gs?season=2010

I count 4 wins and 6 losses when the other team scored 24 points or more.

Even better in 2009:

http://www.nfl.com/player/peytonmann...gs?season=2010

3 wins and 2 losses.

2008:

3 wins, 3 losses.

2007:

2 wins, 2 losses, including the playoffs.

12 and 13, total for those years.

Of course, that is Peyton Manning, one of the best of all time. Let's look at someone a bit more ordinary.

Big Ben, for example.

2012:

http://www.nfl.com/player/benroethli...gs?season=2012

0 wins, 5 losses when the other team scored 24 points or more.

2011:

0 wins, 2 losses when the other team scored 24 points or more, including the playoffs.

2010:

1 and 1

2009:

3 and 2

2008:

1 and 2, including the playoffs.

2007:

2 and 5, including the playoffs.

7 and 17 total for those years.

So, let's just say it's not all that unusual to lose when your opponent puts up 24 points or more.

Now, of course, 2-27-1 is obviously quite a bit worse that 7-17, but you also have to consider that that is a career stat, including his rookie year, the team coming off of a 2-14 season, 2007 when he was playing with a separated shoulder, the golden years of Jimmy Raye, etc.

Matt Ryan was 3 and 3 last season.

Matt Schaub was 3 and 4 last season.

Vick was 0 and 11 last season. 0 and 7 in 2011.

BigCatDaddy · 09-19-2013, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_b_284

I have been gone for a while, and not seen this thread develop. Can someone give me the bullet points, as I am not trying to read all 300 pgs. Particularly, what is the suggested alternative to Alex Smith. Cassel? Geno Smith? I am happy with 34td to 10int since week 1 2011.

Alex is fine as a stop gap, the concern is the Chiefs go all in on him as if he is a true franchise QB.

**Mav** · 09-19-2013, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Last year Cassel lead us from 18 down in the 3rd againt the same vaunted Saints defense that Alex won his playoff game against

That was not even CLOSE to the same saints defense.
Vilma was out, Sedrick Ellis was out. Tracy Porter was gone.

You are delusional. Not to mention that they didn't have Sean Payton, or Gregg Williams. Please, tell some more funny stories.

**Mav** · 09-19-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

It beats the hell out of last year, but I've seen this before. It looks early similar to MartyBall(Pre Joe) only instead of 3 yards and a cloud of dust it's a short passing game. Don't beat yourself by turning it over, play solid defense and special teams, beat the shit teams and average teams when at home lose to the good teams.

I really wish you could come to grips with reality. That your TALENT, is all on your defense. Your best offensive player cant even get going despite the fact that last year he had 1500 rushing on the team with the worst qb situation in football.

Reality is really hard to accept.

mike_b_284 · 09-19-2013, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Alex is fine as a stop gap, the concern is the Chiefs go all in on him as if he is a true franchise QB.

Couldn't agree more, but there wasn't a qb worth drafting this year, at least not without shuffling the entire draft order. So what is everyone bitching about? Who do they want?

BigCatDaddy · 09-19-2013, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

That was not even CLOSE to the same saints defense.
Vilma was out, Sedrick Ellis was out. Tracy Porter was gone.

You are delusional. Not to mention that they didn't have Sean Payton, or Gregg Williams. Please, tell some more funny stories.

Ellis is a bust, and Porter is a Jag. Not identical, but it's not like they were playing like they were during their SB run.

**Mav** · 09-19-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mike_b_284

Couldn't agree more, but there wasn't a qb worth drafting this year, at least not without shuffling the entire draft order. So what is everyone bitching about? Who do they want?

The prevailing opinion TODAY is that it should of been a no brainer to take Ej Manuel. Although the Bills were so excited to take him, that instead of drafting him 8th where they were originally, they decided to happily drop to 16th to grab him.

Sandy Vagina · 09-19-2013, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city

How you guys are getting that the cowboys are a mediocre team is beyond me. I'm guessing it makes your argument sound better, but that's absolutely a good team.

It's a top 5 type offense with a better than average defense

You nailed why. Dallas is looking pretty good this season on both sides of the ball.

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Originally Posted by mike_b_284

I have been gone for a while, and not seen this thread develop. Can someone give me the bullet points, as I am not trying to read all 300 pgs. Particularly, what is the suggested alternative to Alex Smith. Cassel? Geno Smith? I am happy with 34td to 10int since week 1 2011.

The glorified QB of choice seems to have been Geno, but now is shifting towards that Bills rookie whose name eludes me at the moment.

Lots of misery and gloom, despite the 2-0 start. Each week, the next premise = "meh, let's see how they do the next week... we are still likely not going anywhere, and would have been better off drafting Geno or ____ at 1.1 and developing him into a stud VS some other scrub veteran."

... of which, I disagree with altogether.

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