It's official. Moore in, Baird out - Page 5

Brock · 05-31-2006, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunther_Fan

Who cares??!! Nothing will change.

Way to take up as much space as possible, douchebag.

**ChiTown** · 05-31-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunther_Fan

Who cares??!! Nothing will change.

sedated · 05-31-2006, 02:56 PM

He will trade the old guys, but that's nothing new.

What would be new, however, is if he got something of value for them.

nascher · 05-31-2006, 02:57 PM

**** sweeney

sedated · 05-31-2006, 03:10 PM

How many times have you seen the headline "Royal Flush"?

Lets have a little originality, people

tk13 · 05-31-2006, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sedated

How many times have you seen the headline "Royal Flush"?

Lets have a little originality, people

Don't forget "Royal Pain." Right up there with "Chief Concern".

tk13 · 05-31-2006, 04:14 PM

I still think we have some guys who could pitch someday.

The problem is, we can't keep anybody healthy. I think that's the real issue. We can't keep a single pitching prospect healthy. Greinke, Affeldt, Hernandez, Bautista, Snyder, Burgos, MacDougal and on and on... have all missed time for one thing or another the last few years. Sometimes guys are going to have growing pains, but they have to be healthy so they can keep going out there every 5th day or every save situation, etc... and keep learning. We haven't been able to do that. Look at the Tigers, Bonderman, Maroth, Robertson, etc... those guys put up some horrible numbers, worse than even some of our pitching prospects, but they were actually able to stay healthy and keep improving, and now they're part of the best staff in the league. Meanwhile our guys can't stay healthy enough to sustain any improvement.

**ChiTown** · 05-31-2006, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I still think we have some guys who could pitch someday.

The problem is, we can't keep anybody healthy. I think that's the real issue. We can't keep a single pitching prospect healthy. Greinke, Affeldt, Hernandez, Bautista, Snyder, Burgos, MacDougal and on and on... have all missed time for one thing or another the last few years. Sometimes guys are going to have growing pains, but they have to be healthy so they can keep going out there every 5th day or every save situation, etc... and keep learning. We haven't been able to do that. Look at the Tigers, Bonderman, Maroth, Robertson, etc... those guys put up some horrible numbers, worse than even some of our pitching prospects, but they were actually able to stay healthy and keep improving, and now they're part of the best staff in the league. Meanwhile our guys can't stay healthy enough to sustain any improvement.

True, about the health issues.

But, at some point, you have to draft guys that are healthy specimens (both mentally and physically). The Royals org. has had a knack for drafting guys who become chronically injured (menatally and physically). It's beyond amazing how reliable the stat really is. So, no matter their potential, they aren't worth a spit to the org, or to anyone else, if they can't stay healthy enough to get better as a pitching talent.

So, as I mentioned, we have little, if any, reliable (read: mentally and physically capable) pitching talent.

FringeNC · 05-31-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

True, about the health issues.

But, at some point, you have to draft guys that are healthy specimens (both mentally and physically). The Royals org. has had a knack for drafting guys who become chronically injured (menatally and physically). It's beyond amazing how reliable the stat really is. So, no matter their potential, they aren't worth a spit to the org, or to anyone else, if they can't stay healthy enough to get better as a pitching talent.

So, as I mentioned, we have little, if any, reliable (read: mentally and physically capable) pitching talent.

Also, I don't understand why they don't try a guy like Andy Sisco as a starter? At least he has some upside. If you are going to lose 115 games, I'd rather it be done with younger players rather than stiffs like Joe Mays.

Mr. Laz · 05-31-2006, 04:25 PM

i think they should of offered Baird a job as assistant GM in charge of the minor league system etc.

i think he's a good guy and has enough talent to warrant trying to keep him in the organization.

BigChiefFan · 05-31-2006, 04:31 PM

I'm sure we will draft some pitchers in the upcoming draft.

Mecca · 05-31-2006, 04:55 PM

You'd think the law of averages would say the Royals would get lucky with a pitcher at some point.....

When you draft for signability over ability, don't develop players well and then top that off by bringing guys who aren't ready up. Your minor league system isn't going to be rated very well.

Sure-Oz · 05-31-2006, 04:56 PM

I think these young guys need to keep going out there and go through the pains. I say bring a real manager and some real coaches to show these kids how its done as well. How about some guys from the 80's that knew how to win!

VonneMarie · 05-31-2006, 05:05 PM

It sucks to see Baird go, but on the other hand I'm really excited about the move.

Sure-Oz · 05-31-2006, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by VonneMarie

It sucks to see Baird go, but on the other hand I'm really excited about the move.

This is probably the best news in a long time for us Royals fans....like a chance at hope for this franchise. I am excited about Moore and hope he brings us back to our winning ways and the best part is that Glass will stick to the business side and let Moore do what he does best. Let's hope for some fun baseball again in KC!

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1762500	I still think we have some guys who could pitch someday. The problem is, we can't keep anybody healthy. I think that's the real issue. We can't keep a single pitching prospect healthy. Greinke, Affeldt, Hernandez, Bautista, Snyder, Burgos, MacDougal and on and on... have all missed time for one thing or another the last few years. Sometimes guys are going to have growing pains, but they have to be healthy so they can keep going out there every 5th day or every save situation, etc... and keep learning. We haven't been able to do that. Look at the Tigers, Bonderman, Maroth, Robertson, etc... those guys put up some horrible numbers, worse than even some of our pitching prospects, but they were actually able to stay healthy and keep improving, and now they're part of the best staff in the league. Meanwhile our guys can't stay healthy enough to sustain any improvement.
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