Chiefs are releasing RT Eric Winston

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Chiefs are releasing RT Eric Winston, per league source.



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@nfldraftscout there are some serious injury concerns


Looks like he's hurt

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Go to Hell

Dane, are you really this stupid? He was the best right tackle in football last season.

Andre Smith, OT: Smith was my first pick in SI’s Free-Agent Mock Draft earlier this week, so I don’t exactly anticipate his performance falling off a cliff next season. But teams must be wary of a player who carries questions about his conditioning and work ethic, then shines in a contract year.


http://nfl.si.com/2013/03/07/bargain...2_a6&eref=sihp

If I'm Dorsey and Reid, I'm not paying Andre Smith $9 million per year to be a right tackle.

[The Franchise]

Gosder Cherilus on the other hand might be a decent signing depending on the price.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by Frosty

RTs are intentionally taken at #1 all of the time.

People keep saying this kind of thing and it's hard to understand why. If the Chiefs use 1.1 on a tackle, it won't be with the intent of landing a RT for the next 10 years. He'll be drafted to be a LT, even though he might play the right side initially while Branden Albert is still on the team.

[unlurking]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

happens every day on here in at least one thread, its a pretty common "want," "idea," "theory" or whatever on what do with him. It's more of an "excuse" for Baldwin apologists to try and give him a free pass that he is good or will pan out as a player. So grasping at straws, and very dumb ones might I add. Just becauses hes big and tall doesnt mean he can play TE.

Weird. Haven't seen this. Maybe I just have these people on ignore.

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard.

The drop off from Geno Smith to say someone like Matt Scott or Alex Carder is minimal?

absolutely. And everyone outside of CHiefs planet has been trying to convince themselves of that. First reason is, because andy reid comes from philly where he had success with mobil qbs like mcnabb and vick, they think that because geno is mobile he is the same player. Hes not.

Second, you have to ask yourself this question.

Had lets say, aaron murray had come out this year, would you guys want geno or aaron?

The answer is simple. aaron murray. I have seen this expression used a lot on this board. a shined up turd is still a turd. FOr first round value, which of the qbs in this draft class would of went first round last year?

The answer is NONE.

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by patteeu

People keep saying this kind of thing and it's hard to understand why. If the Chiefs use 1.1 on a tackle, it won't be with the intent of landing a RT for the next 10 years. He'll be drafted to be a LT, even though he might play the right side initially while Branden Albert is still on the team.

Dorsey says they are working on a long term contract with Albert. If this is true, it makes Winston's comment sound like they are using a #1 to replace him at RT.

Yes, if they don't get a contract with Albert and they take a OT, then draft pick is the LTOTF but I was going off of what I quoted and what has been said previously about Albert's contract situation, not some general situation.

[Ultra Peanut]

lol xd

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

absolutely. And everyone outside of CHiefs planet has been trying to convince themselves of that. First reason is, because andy reid comes from philly where he had success with mobil qbs like mcnabb and vick, they think that because geno is mobile he is the same player. Hes not.

That's why Geno is being projected to go in the top half of the first round and Matt Scott is being projected to go in the second half of the draft, right?

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

Second, you have to ask yourself this question.

Had lets say, aaron murray had come out this year, would you guys want geno or aaron?

Nobody was clamoring for Murray when he was deciding whether to come out or not.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by mcaj22

this Baldwin to convert to a TE stuff is hilarious

even as a pass catching TE he would still be listed as a TE on the depth chart, and you always want your TEs to be able to block, play special teams, etc and he cant do ANY of that, never probably learned any of that his entire football career and has no fundamentals of that type of stuff. He's purely a WR with the mindset of a WR, run, jump, route tree, catch a 1000 balls in practice etc. You asking him to essentially start running drills with the offensive lineman, for at least one if not both practices.

Even Gronk and Hernandez on the Pats still know how to line up on the LOS and know how to run block. You magically think Jon Baldwin is going to be able to block some big huge DE or fast OLBer the guy cant even beat the strength of a 5'9 CB jamming him at the line

i was kidding btw

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Frosty

That's why Geno is being projected to go in the top half of the first round and Matt Scott is being projected to go in the second half of the draft, right?



Nobody was clamoring for Murray when he was deciding whether to come out or not.

hes being projected because the free agent market is terrible, the qb draft class is terrible. THink about what you just said.

FIRST HALF OF THE DRAFT??????

if he was that good, wouldnt he be a sure fire number one overrall pick for a team that despartely needs a qb? If he was that sure of a player, there is no way the chiefs trade for alex mediocre smith. (thats me saying that, not playing along).

rate the top 10 qbs in this draft.

Geno,
Barkley,
Glennon,
Wilson,
Manuel,
Nassib,
landry jones,

thats 7. can you tell me that from that list, there is a clear cut talent difference in any of them, or do they all come with big big question marks?

compared to last years.

Luck,
Griffin,
Tannenhill,
Weeden,
FOles,
Wilson,
would the best qb from this years draft class pass over anyone but say weeden?

Not, EVEN, CLOSE.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

absolutely. And everyone outside of CHiefs planet has been trying to convince themselves of that. First reason is, because andy reid comes from philly where he had success with mobil qbs like mcnabb and vick, they think that because geno is mobile he is the same player. Hes not.

Second, you have to ask yourself this question.

Had lets say, aaron murray had come out this year, would you guys want geno or aaron?

The answer is simple. aaron murray. I have seen this expression used a lot on this board. a shined up turd is still a turd. FOr first round value, which of the qbs in this draft class would of went first round last year?

The answer is NONE.

Absolutely this

[Frosty]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

THink about what you just said.

FIRST HALF OF THE DRAFT??????

Maybe you should read what I actually wrote?

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Alex Smith Fan

hes being projected because the free agent market is terrible, the qb draft class is terrible. THink about what you just said.

FIRST HALF OF THE DRAFT??????

if he was that good, wouldnt he be a sure fire number one overrall pick for a team that despartely needs a qb? If he was that sure of a player, there is no way the chiefs trade for alex mediocre smith. (thats me saying that, not playing along).

rate the top 10 qbs in this draft.

Geno,
Barkley,
Glennon,
Wilson,
Manuel,
Nassib,
landry jones,

thats 7. can you tell me that from that list, there is a clear cut talent difference in any of them, or do they all come with big big question marks?

compared to last years.

Luck,
Griffin,
Tannenhill,
Weeden,
FOles,
Wilson,
would the best qb from this years draft class pass over anyone but say weeden?

Not, EVEN, CLOSE.

I would take Geno Smith over Ryan Tannehill every day of the week.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

I would take Geno Smith over Ryan Tannehill every day of the week.

me too, geno would be third on the list last year.


alex smith fan guy is a drooling mongoloid

[Mav]

Originally Posted by Frosty

Maybe you should read what I actually wrote?

yeah, first half of the first round. I mistyped it, and again, okay, ill break down a different way.

In a draft where the FIRST TWO DRAFT PICKS in the draft as it stands right now, the chiefs and the jags, having horrid qb situations. They arent exactly fighting over geno smith.

If this were the draft order for last year, would there be any doubt that andrew luck, and rg3 would go 1, 2?

well, if geno smith is as good as people here think, why isnt he a lock to one of them?

There are no free agent qbs out there worth starting this year, there were really only two trade options, alex smith, and matt flynn. NO one wants flynn. There was enough of a market for the niners to get the 2nd pick in the second round, in a league that treats draft picks, not like gold, but more like platinum.

So, either Andy Reid is a complete moron, or he knows what everyone else seems to know.

This draft class, is extremely weak. Maybe the weakest since the 2004 draft, or the 2002 draft was considered to be.