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Old 11-19-2012, 08:19 PM  
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Any young QB's worth trading out of the 1st overall for?
Assuming the QB talent blows nutsack in the draft this year?

Colin Kaepernick is looking pretty nasty right now...
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:43 PM   #91
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For reals?

What an immoral and clueless b@st@rd...
I agree, some of them were over the hill starters.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:46 PM   #92
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The year that we suck bad enough to obtain the #1 overall draft pick is the year there isn't a QB worthy of spending a #1 pick on.

Typical Chiefs luck.....this franchise is snake bitten...just like the ****ing Royals.

I like Geno Smith....however I don't think he's a Andrew Luck or RG3
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:47 PM   #93
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The year that we suck bad enough to obtain the #1 overall draft pick is the year there isn't a QB worthy of spending a #1 pick on.
We think today...
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:49 PM   #94
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GM - Marc Ross
He's the Scott Pioli of this year's GM candidates in that everybody seems to think he's the best guy for the job.

But thus far, I really can't think of a better option. There are tons of names I'd be satisfied with, but Ross has personnel experience for a multiple Super Bowl-winning team. And even if he's just riding Eli's coattails in his roster construction, he would at least be smart enough to realize that and do everything he can to pick a franchise QB.

I hope Pioli was just an anomaly.
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I like Geno Smith....however I don't think he's a Andrew Luck or RG3
There rarely ever is.

Suck it up. Other teams draft non-Andrew Luck first round QBs and win Super Bowls with them. We can too
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There rarely ever is.

Suck it up. Other teams draft non-Andrew Luck first round QBs and win Super Bowls with them. We can too
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He's the Scott Pioli of this year's GM candidates in that everybody seems to think he's the best guy for the job.

But thus far, I really can't think of a better option. There are tons of names I'd be satisfied with, but Ross has personnel experience for a multiple Super Bowl-winning team. And even if he's just riding Eli's coattails in his roster construction, he would at least be smart enough to realize that and do everything he can to pick a franchise QB.

I hope Pioli was just an anomaly.
Ross has been the Director of College Scouting for the last 5 years. Here are the Giants drafts in the last 5 years.

2012

1 32 David Wilson RB Virginia Tech
2 63 Rueben Randle WR LSU
3 94 Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech
4 127 Adrien Robinson TE Cincinnati
4 131 Brandon Mosley T Auburn
6 201 Matt McCants T Alabama-Birmingham
7 239 Markus Kuhn DT North Carolina State

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1 19 Prince Amukamara DB Nebraska
2 52 Marvin Austin DT North Carolina
3 83 Jerrel Jernigan WR Troy
4 117 James Brewer T Indiana
6 185 Greg Jones LB Michigan State
6 198 Tyler Sash DB Iowa
6 202 Jacquian Williams LB South Florida
7 221 Da'Rel Scott RB Maryland

2010

1 15 Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida
2 46 Linval Joseph DT East Carolina
4 115 Phillip Dillard LB Nebraska
5 147 Mitch Petrus G Arkansas
6 184 Adrian Tracy LB William & Mary
7 221 Matt Dodge P East Carolina

2009

1 29 Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
2 45 Clint Sintim LB Virginia
2 60 William Beatty T Connecticut
3 85 Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly-S.L.O.
3 100 Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin
4 129 Andre Brown RB North Carolina State
5 151 Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State
6 200 DeAndre Wright CB New Mexico
7 238 Stoney Woodson CB South Carolina

2008

1 31 Kenny Phillips FS Miami (Fla.)
2 63 Terrell Thomas CB USC
3 95 Mario Manningham WR Michigan
4 123 Bryan Kehl OLB Brigham Young
5 165 Jonathan Goff LB Vanderbilt
6 198 Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
6 199 Robert Henderson DE Southern Mississippi
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:19 PM   #98
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The year that we suck bad enough to obtain the #1 overall draft pick is the year there isn't a QB worthy of spending a #1 pick on.

Typical Chiefs luck.....this franchise is snake bitten...just like the ****ing Royals.

I like Geno Smith....however I don't think he's a Andrew Luck or RG3
I understand the sentiment behind this post.
There have been a lot of QB's that weren't Luck or RGIII that have been very successful including winning SBs. That is not a fair assessment.
There have been a lot of World Series won and played in that didn't include Albert Pujols and or Alex Rodriguez and so on.
We don't have to have the very best QB but we do need a good one that can be acquired in this draft.
Brees is a very good elite QB but he can't do it without the rest of the team too.
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Old 11-20-2012, 01:21 PM   #99
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Ross has been the Director of College Scouting for the last 5 years. Here are the Giants drafts in the last 5 years.

2012

1 32 David Wilson RB Virginia Tech
2 63 Rueben Randle WR LSU
3 94 Jayron Hosley CB Virginia Tech
4 127 Adrien Robinson TE Cincinnati
4 131 Brandon Mosley T Auburn
6 201 Matt McCants T Alabama-Birmingham
7 239 Markus Kuhn DT North Carolina State

2011

1 19 Prince Amukamara DB Nebraska
2 52 Marvin Austin DT North Carolina
3 83 Jerrel Jernigan WR Troy
4 117 James Brewer T Indiana
6 185 Greg Jones LB Michigan State
6 198 Tyler Sash DB Iowa
6 202 Jacquian Williams LB South Florida
7 221 Da'Rel Scott RB Maryland

2010

1 15 Jason Pierre-Paul DE South Florida
2 46 Linval Joseph DT East Carolina
4 115 Phillip Dillard LB Nebraska
5 147 Mitch Petrus G Arkansas
6 184 Adrian Tracy LB William & Mary
7 221 Matt Dodge P East Carolina

2009

1 29 Hakeem Nicks WR North Carolina
2 45 Clint Sintim LB Virginia
2 60 William Beatty T Connecticut
3 85 Ramses Barden WR Cal Poly-S.L.O.
3 100 Travis Beckum TE Wisconsin
4 129 Andre Brown RB North Carolina State
5 151 Rhett Bomar QB Sam Houston State
6 200 DeAndre Wright CB New Mexico
7 238 Stoney Woodson CB South Carolina

2008

1 31 Kenny Phillips FS Miami (Fla.)
2 63 Terrell Thomas CB USC
3 95 Mario Manningham WR Michigan
4 123 Bryan Kehl OLB Brigham Young
5 165 Jonathan Goff LB Vanderbilt
6 198 Andre Woodson QB Kentucky
6 199 Robert Henderson DE Southern Mississippi
That list doesn't look to good. Looks like he hits on the first rounder and misses more often on the rest.
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Ross is a good guy, but here are my concerns:

1) he would probably hire Perry Fewell as his HC and that would mean a change back to the 4-3.

2) While he is promising, his drafts haven't been homeruns. They have been a hair above average.

3) Im not sure how he would handle the other responsibilities that come with being the GM...hiring and firing coaches, trading and signing players, etc.
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The year that we suck bad enough to obtain the #1 overall draft pick is the year there isn't a QB worthy of spending a #1 pick on.

Typical Chiefs luck.....this franchise is snake bitten...just like the ****ing Royals.

I like Geno Smith....however I don't think he's a Andrew Luck or RG3
I disagree. I think Barkley's been overanalyzed to the point of full reerunom. I'd be estatic if they took him. When it's all said and done I believe he'll be the first QB selected an lead this team for a decade plus.
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Assuming the QB talent blows nutsack in the draft this year?

Colin Kaepernick is looking pretty nasty right now...
What about Sam Bradford?
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