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Old 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM  
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If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick.
A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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Old 05-08-2013, 03:08 PM   #1051
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Honestly, I look at the schedule at see 6 wins, at most. They'll probably go 2-4 in the division, and I just don't see them winning more than four games outside the AFC West.

I think the offseason has made people forget just how atrocious this team was in 2012. Yes, the QB's were awful, the coaches sucked, but, I didn't really see any standout performances from our "talented" players, other than Charles. Even the defense, where most of this team's talent resides, got smoked several times last season. (lol, the Jets)

Sorry guys, this is a six win team.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:16 PM   #1052
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Honestly, I look at the schedule at see 6 wins, at most. They'll probably go 2-4 in the division, and I just don't see them winning more than four games outside the AFC West.

I think the offseason has made people forget just how atrocious this team was in 2012. Yes, the QB's were awful, the coaches sucked, but, I didn't really see any standout performances from our "talented" players, other than Charles. Even the defense, where most of this team's talent resides, got smoked several times last season. (lol, the Jets)

Sorry guys, this is a six win team.
I think you probably underestimate just how god awful the coaching and preparation was. Hell, they dumb lucked into winning the Saints game when Romeo was going to punt. I think it's anywhere from 4-8 wins depending on how injuries shake out with them and around the league. An injured Manning makes things look a lot different. But really way too many unknowns at this point.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:20 PM   #1053
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I think you probably underestimate just how god awful the coaching was.
Coaching was bad, but so was the team.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:21 PM   #1054
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I think you probably underestimate just how god awful the coaching and preparation was. Hell, they dumb lucked into winning the Saints game when Romeo was going to punt. I think it's anywhere from 4-8 wins depending on how injuries shake out with them and around the league. An injured Manning makes things look a lot different. But really way too many unknowns at this point.
Yep. Niners had basically the same team in 2010 to 2011 and won 7 more games with the coaching change (plus, saddled with the lockout).

Coaching can make a world of difference.
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Coaching was bad, but so was the team.
It was virtually the same team Haley took to 10 wins.
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It was virtually the same team Haley rode to 10 wins.
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It was virtually the same team Haley took to 10 wins.
Except Cassel was mentally broken, Hali ****ing sucked, Breaston sat on the sidelines, Charles and Moeaki were coming of ACL's, no stability at FS, and there was no Brandon Carr.

This place is gonna be ****ing melting down when the Chiefs are 0-1 after opening weekend.
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If by rode you mean pushed them than I agree. There wasn't much to ride talent wise. Haley/Weis were the difference.
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Old 05-08-2013, 03:25 PM   #1059
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You misunderstand. This season will be a lot of fun because of these absurd predictions. I remember just a year ago when the Chiefs were going to win the division because Berry, Charles and Moeaki were all coming back.
The Chiefs nearly beat 3 AFC playoff teams at home last year without even trying to attempt a forward pass. If you can't see the talent they have you have your head up horseface's ass.
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Haley/Weis were the difference.
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Except Cassel was mentally broken, Hali ****ing sucked, Breaston sat on the sidelines, Charles and Moeaki were coming of ACL's, no stability at FS, and there was no Brandon Carr.

This place is gonna be ****ing melting down when the Chiefs are 0-1 after opening weekend.
Carr hurt a little bit. Charles was Charles last year and Moeaki hasn't done shit any year. There was minimal difference in talent on the teams. Just better coaching and easier schedule in 10. I'm not expecting all sunshine and roses, but it's hard to suck that bad a few years in a row.
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Honestly, I look at the schedule at see 6 wins, at most. They'll probably go 2-4 in the division, and I just don't see them winning more than four games outside the AFC West.

I think the offseason has made people forget just how atrocious this team was in 2012. Yes, the QB's were awful, the coaches sucked, but, I didn't really see any standout performances from our "talented" players, other than Charles. Even the defense, where most of this team's talent resides, got smoked several times last season. (lol, the Jets)

Sorry guys, this is a six win team.


I'm suuuuuure 50 turnovers had nothing to do with any of the losses.

I question whether you even watched the games against Bal, Indy, and Denver at home where that "talentless" team nearly won by not even attempting forward passes.
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Smith has no excuses. There is enough talent on this team to win 9-11 games with solid QB play.
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Smith has no excuses. There is enough talent on this team to win 9-11 games with solid QB play.
Every QB needs at least two seasons with the same offensive coordinator, perfect offensive line, and no injuries in order to be judged properly.

That's what I learned from the Cassel years, anyway
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Smith has no excuses. There is enough talent on this team to win 9-11 games with solid QB play.
This. Anything less and Smith can compete with whomever in 2014.
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