Chiefs If the Chiefs go 8-8 or better 49ers get a 2nd round pick. - Page 172

ShowtimeSBMVP · 05-06-2013, 07:21 AM

A third- or second-rounder from Kansas City, the remnant of the Alex Smith deal. Now it can be told: The second draft choice San Francisco will receive from the Smith deal will be K.C.'s second-rounder in 2014 if the Chiefs go 8-8 or better this season. It will be a third-rounder in 2014 if Kansas City is under .500 this season.

So: San Francisco will probably have first-, second- and four third-rounders next year. But if the Chiefs surprise, it'll more likely be a one, two twos and three threes. As we've seen, GM Trent Baalke is dangerous with extra picks in his hands. If Colin Kaepernick is very good, the Niners should be annual contenders for years with the picks laid out that way.

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milkman · 05-19-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

This "best fit scenario for Smith" is going be dependent just on how well he plays for KC and win over some of these fans. If he struggles early and we don't get some wins it could get ugly for him. Depends on how the crowd is going handle if we don't get some wins.

The expectations are going be high and more demanding than in San Fran. Coach Reid says he wants a passing attack and pass often offense so the pressure is really on Alex Smith to perform. It's going depend on Andy Reid recognizing Alex Smith faults also and see if he allows the running game to help him out.

They have to go out and prove that this trade was worth it and I think they don't have much window of opportunity to do it.

Chiefs fans are wanting results we are expecting results in wins.

So this could be a good fit for Alex Smith to get an uncontested starting job but the pressure to win is on him.

There is not going to be any pressure on Alex Smith from this fanbase next season.

They will, as they have in the past, find excuses and blame other areas of the team.

It took 4 years for Matt Cassel to be the focus of fan reaction.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 05-19-2013, 03:07 PM

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And for those in this thread that think Eli Manning isn't elite, I give you Ramses Barden.

Eli's inconsistency is due, to a large degree, to the fact that he plays behind one of the worst O-Lines in the league.

But he is a guy that makes big plays in the biggest moments, and that to me is exactly what defines elite.

Actually, there are a number of definitions for elite QB.

Peyton Manning is elite, because he can carry a team through the regular season, but unlike his little brother, he shrinks in the biggest moments, and there's no way in hell he wins more SBs behind that sorry than Eli has.

BOOM.
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Rasputin · 05-19-2013, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

There is not going to be any pressure on Alex Smith from this fanbase next season.

They will, as they have in the past, find excuses and blame other areas of the team.

It took 4 years for Matt Cassel to be the focus of fan reaction.

Then I can only speak for myself. I want results. The same fans you speak of wouldn't be patient with a rooky quarterback but they will give Alex Smith a pass.

This is the difference with the "true fan" fan base.

I'd give a rooky a few years and if he struggles his first year be patient and have fun when he does good and grows up in front of us. We ( I ) miss out on what we could have in the future.

Messier · 05-19-2013, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

There is not going to be any pressure on Alex Smith from this fanbase next season.

They will, as they have in the past, find excuses and blame other areas of the team.

It took 4 years for Matt Cassel to be the focus of fan reaction.

No it didn't. He was on the hot seat (with fans) after his first year. If 2010 hadn't gone surprisingly well, he would've had no support after two years.

I think everyone's patience is thin, and if Smith has a year like Cassel had in 2009, the fans, and hopefully the coaches will be looking for his replacement in 2014.

**SAUTO** · 05-19-2013, 03:44 PM

Looking for his replacement while giving up a third, at least for the guy in the same year?

Good trade
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splatbass · 05-19-2013, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

unproven as a Chief. We shall see...

And you know good and well the hate is about is inability to be more than game manager who will NOT take this team to a SB victory. The Niners realized this, why can't you?
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He came within overtime of the NFCC to getting to the SB, as close as you can get without actually getting there, so your point is 100% pure BS.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-19-2013, 05:06 PM

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He came within overtime of the NFCC to getting to the SB, as close as you can get without actually getting there, so your point is 100% pure BS.

When Mark Sanchez has a 4-2 playoff record, two AFCCG'S, and a 9:1 TD:INT ratio, it was the defense and running game that got them there.

When the Niners fall short, with a superior roster, and inferior numbers for Smith compared to Sanchez - people imply that Smith was the reason the Niners even came close.

This place is always good for a laugh.

**Bowser** · 05-19-2013, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

When Mark Sanchez has a 4-2 playoff record, two AFCCG'S, and a 9:1 TD:INT ratio, it was the defense and running game that got them there.

When the Niners fall short, with a superior roster, and inferior numbers for Smith compared to Sanchez - people imply that Smith was the reason the Niners even came close.

This place is always good for a laugh.

You shut your whore mouth. San Fransisco quarterbacks always bring success here in KC. ALWAYS

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-19-2013, 05:09 PM

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You shut your whore mouth. San Fransisco quarterbacks always bring success here in KC. ALWAYS

You shut your mouth when you're talking to me.

**Bowser** · 05-19-2013, 05:13 PM

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You shut your mouth when you're talking to me.

**Bowser** · 05-19-2013, 05:14 PM

My favorite Alex Smith stat I've heard so far - He has thrown for over 300 yards in his career THREE times. Is that right? I mean, is that even possible for a guy that's been in the league eight years?

Hammock Parties · 05-19-2013, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

My favorite Alex Smith stat I've heard so far - He has thrown for over 300 yards in his career THREE times. Is that right? I mean, is that even possible for a guy that's been in the league eight years?

He ain't got SHIT on Matt Cassel.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 05-19-2013, 05:16 PM

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RunKC · 05-19-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

When Mark Sanchez has a 4-2 playoff record, two AFCCG'S, and a 9:1 TD:INT ratio, it was the defense and running game that got them there.

When the Niners fall short, with a superior roster, and inferior numbers for Smith compared to Sanchez - people imply that Smith was the reason the Niners even came close.

This place is always good for a laugh.

Sanchez might not even start this year. So there's that.

**Bowser** · 05-19-2013, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

My favorite Alex Smith stat I've heard so far - He has thrown for over 300 yards in his career THREE times. Is that right? I mean, is that even possible for a guy that's been in the league eight years?

Just looked it up, and holy shit it's true. Wow.

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