Dolphins working on a trade for offensive tackle Branden Albert

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Branden Albert trade won’t happen unless he lowers his price
Posted by Michael David Smith on April 21, 2013, 6:46 PM EDT
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The much-discussed potential trade of Branden Albert from the Chiefs to the Dolphins doesn’t appear likely at the price Albert is currently seeking.

Although the Chiefs and Dolphins can probably agree on compensation — the Dolphins sending a second-round pick to Kansas City — the hangup is that Albert wants the kind of money that the Dolphins aren’t willing to spend. Specifically, according to Jason Cole of Yahoo! Sports, Albert wants between $8 million and $9 million a year on a long-term deal.

In other words, Albert is looking for the same kind of contract that left tackle Jake Long got from the Rams — the very contract the Dolphins wouldn’t give Long, which is why he left Miami for St. Louis.

If the Dolphins weren’t willing to pay Long that kind of money, it’s hard to see why they’d be willing to give up a second-round draft pick for the privilege of paying Albert that kind of money. So the Dolphins may need to look elsewhere for a left tackle. And Albert may have to settle for playing this season for the Chiefs, making $9.8 million, and hitting free agency next year.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Carlota69

Didn't Joker protect Tannehill? They have chemistry, like little lovers. It's beautiful.

And Mike Sherman (Miamis OC) recruited Joeckel and was his HC at Texas A&M.

[ct]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

at all of us getting our hopes up.

There is just no way Ireland is this stupid.

apparently I fell asleep

oh, and THIS!

If any trade happens I'm thinking we'll get one 2nd round pick and that is all. Detroit, Zona, maybe Philly. Just dont see anyone else.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by BossChief

And Mike Sherman (Miamis OC) recruited Joeckel and was his HC at Texas A&M.

****. Me.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

You've got to be able to explain your moves to the team's owner.

It's really, really hard to explain trading away multiple picks to land a tackle at 1.1.

Bet it doesn't end up costing the Dolphins that much to move up.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by BossChief

What information has been reported for 2 months now, shun?

That Dorsey has used every means necessary to gauge which teams want to add a starting left tackle, while saying multiple times that he wants to keep Albert in KC to be the left tackle?

Dangling Albert out there could be an elaborate way of gauging which teams want a LT but don't have a pick high enough to snag one of the three top guys...possibly so that he can get a market built up of teams that want to instead trade up for the top pick at a discount.

I mean, to me that seems to indicate they aren't as interested in replacing Albert as much as the media thinks.

April 22: "All signs now point to Luke Joeckel being the top pick. He would be the first for the city of Arlington as well as A&M." - Charean Williams, Fort Worth Star-Telegram

April 20: "Sources tell me several position coaches for the Kansas City Chiefs prefer tackle Eric Fisher over Luke Joeckel." - Tony Pauline

April 18: "Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel will be the first name called next week. According to numerous league sources, the Chiefs are locked in on him, barring anything unforeseen, after also strongly considering Central Michigan left tackle Eric Fisher." - Jason La Canfora

April 17: "I wouldn't be shocked if the Chiefs decided to take Eric Fisher with the #1 pick. A lot of buzz out there." - Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network

April 15: Peter King wrote that he doesn't see the Chiefs picking anyone outside of the top two tackles with the first pick. There was a rumor floating around that Dion Jordan was Kansas City's top option, but Jordan wouldn't make any sense with Tamba Hali and Justin Houston in the starting lineup.

April 12: "The Dolphins have Luke Joeckel and Eric Fisher rated considerably higher than Lane Johnson. As such, the Dolphins don't appear to be all that interested in trading up for Johnson as has been speculated around the league in recent days, but are very keen to move up for either Joeckel or Fisher. In fact, according to sources the Dolphins won't rule out trading all the way up to the #1 pick to get one of those guys if that’s what it takes." - GBN Report

March 29: "All signs point toward the Chiefs selecting Luke Joeckel." - Daniel Jeremiah

March 25: "There are no holes on Texas A&M tackle Luke Jockel (still the odds-on favorite to go No. 1 overall)." - Peter King

March 9: "After today's Pro Day at Texas A&M, scouts believe it's hard to imagine the Chiefs bypassing OT Luke Joeckel with No. 1 overall pick." - Adam Schefter

Feb. 24: The Chiefs are high on Joeckel, the Texas A&M offensive tackle. - Ian Rapoport

Feb. 22: Chiefs unlikely to take a quarterback first overall - Jason Cole

Feb. 20: The Kansas City Star considers the Chiefs "unlikely" to use the No. 1 overall pick on a quarterback.

Feb. 17: "There is no quarterback where personnel guys can definitely say, 'He's a first-round pick.' There were so many inconsistencies in the collective group. There was not one guy that stood up and said, 'I'm the guy in the position this year.'" - General manager John Dorsey

Jan. 27: "We hear three teams who select at the top of round two, including the Kansas City Chiefs, Philadelphia Eagles and New York Jets, think highly of [Ryan] Nassib." - Tony Pauline.

Jan. 27: I'm hearing very quiet unsubstantiated rumors that the Chiefs may be leaning Joeckel in the first and then Tyler Wilson in the 2nd. I still think that Geno Smith is the odds on favorite, right now, at No. 1 overall but I'm hearing rumors of other possibilities. Still a long way to go to Draft Day. - Chiefs source.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

lol... just saying, Marty and TBG have proven over the last year that their info is good.

[Dante84]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

April 22: "All signs now point to Luke Joeckel being the top pick. He would be the first for the city of Arlington as well as A&M." - Charean Williams, Fort Worth Star-Telegram

April 20: "Sources tell me several position coaches for the Kansas City Chiefs prefer tackle Eric Fisher over Luke Joeckel." - Tony Pauline

April 18: "Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel will be the first name called next week. According to numerous league sources, the Chiefs are locked in on him, barring anything unforeseen, after also strongly considering Central Michigan left tackle Eric Fisher." - Jason La Canfora

April 17: "I wouldn't be shocked if the Chiefs decided to take Eric Fisher with the #1 pick. A lot of buzz out there." - Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network

April 15: Peter King wrote that he doesn't see the Chiefs picking anyone outside of the top two tackles with the first pick. There was a rumor floating around that Dion Jordan was Kansas City's top option, but Jordan wouldn't make any sense with Tamba Hali and Justin Houston in the starting lineup.

April 12: "The Dolphins have Luke Joeckel and Eric Fisher rated considerably higher than Lane Johnson. As such, the Dolphins don't appear to be all that interested in trading up for Johnson as has been speculated around the league in recent days, but are very keen to move up for either Joeckel or Fisher. In fact, according to sources the Dolphins won't rule out trading all the way up to the #1 pick to get one of those guys if that’s what it takes." - GBN Report

March 29: "All signs point toward the Chiefs selecting Luke Joeckel." - Daniel Jeremiah

March 25: "There are no holes on Texas A&M tackle Luke Jockel (still the odds-on favorite to go No. 1 overall)." - Peter King

March 9: "After today's Pro Day at Texas A&M, scouts believe it's hard to imagine the Chiefs bypassing OT Luke Joeckel with No. 1 overall pick." - Adam Schefter

Feb. 24: The Chiefs are high on Joeckel, the Texas A&M offensive tackle. - Ian Rapoport

Feb. 22: Chiefs unlikely to take a quarterback first overall - Jason Cole

Feb. 20: The Kansas City Star considers the Chiefs "unlikely" to use the No. 1 overall pick on a quarterback.

Feb. 17: "There is no quarterback where personnel guys can definitely say, 'He's a first-round pick.' There were so many inconsistencies in the collective group. There was not one guy that stood up and said, 'I'm the guy in the position this year.'" - General manager John Dorsey

Jan. 27: "We hear three teams who select at the top of round two, including the Kansas City Chiefs, Philadelphia Eagles and New York Jets, think highly of [Ryan] Nassib." - Tony Pauline.

Jan. 27: I'm hearing very quiet unsubstantiated rumors that the Chiefs may be leaning Joeckel in the first and then Tyler Wilson in the 2nd. I still think that Geno Smith is the odds on favorite, right now, at No. 1 overall but I'm hearing rumors of other possibilities. Still a long way to go to Draft Day. - Chiefs source.

And I'm sure all of that was true, until Arizona, Miami, and Detroit all inquired about BA AND 1.1, just this week, causing the BA to Miami trade to be put on pause.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by BigRock

Show me.

TBG posted that the draft compensation had to be agreed to for Miami to be able to talk to Alberts agent.

That part is obvious because Miami already has one franchise player and they can't have two...so unless they plan on giving up 2 first round picks for Albert, they needed to get that part done first and a deal can't be completed till the compensation and long term deal are in place.

There is a thread that reports Miami is willing to meet Alberts contract demands. I'm on my phone or I'd link it for you.

[Direckshun]

In other words, the simplest explanation is that the Chiefs are almost certainly going to take Joeckel, and we're getting flooded with bullshit days before the draft as a smokescreen.

[philfree]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

In other words, the simplest explanation is that the Chiefs are almost certainly going to take Joeckel, and we're getting flooded with bullshit days before the draft as a smokescreen.

Why are they putting up a smokescreen? If they want Joekel they got joekel.

[Direckshun]

Everybody's jockeying for the most value.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by philfree

Why are they putting up a smokescreen? If they want Joekel they got joekel.

I think, and this is just my opinion, they are putting it out there that they would draft Fisher to scare teams into making the Albert deal. Some GMs are likely thinking that if they take Joeckel, that leverage is out. If they put it out there that they would take Fisher to pair with Albert, that sends the message and keeps the demand.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

April 22: "All signs now point to Luke Joeckel being the top pick. He would be the first for the city of Arlington as well as A&M." - Charean Williams, Fort Worth Star-Telegram

April 20: "Sources tell me several position coaches for the Kansas City Chiefs prefer tackle Eric Fisher over Luke Joeckel." - Tony Pauline

April 18: "Texas A&M left tackle Luke Joeckel will be the first name called next week. According to numerous league sources, the Chiefs are locked in on him, barring anything unforeseen, after also strongly considering Central Michigan left tackle Eric Fisher." - Jason La Canfora

April 17: "I wouldn't be shocked if the Chiefs decided to take Eric Fisher with the #1 pick. A lot of buzz out there." - Daniel Jeremiah, NFL Network
April 15: Peter King wrote that he doesn't see the Chiefs picking anyone outside of the top two tackles with the first pick. There was a rumor floating around that Dion Jordan was Kansas City's top option, but Jordan wouldn't make any sense with Tamba Hali and Justin Houston in the starting lineup.

April 12: "The Dolphins have Luke Joeckel and Eric Fisher rated considerably higher than Lane Johnson. As such, the Dolphins don't appear to be all that interested in trading up for Johnson as has been speculated around the league in recent days, but are very keen to move up for either Joeckel or Fisher. In fact, according to sources the Dolphins won't rule out trading all the way up to the #1 pick to get one of those guys if that’s what it takes." - GBN Report

March 29: "All signs point toward the Chiefs selecting Luke Joeckel." - Daniel Jeremiah

March 25: "There are no holes on Texas A&M tackle Luke Jockel (still the odds-on favorite to go No. 1 overall)." - Peter King

March 9: "After today's Pro Day at Texas A&M, scouts believe it's hard to imagine the Chiefs bypassing OT Luke Joeckel with No. 1 overall pick." - Adam Schefter

Feb. 24: The Chiefs are high on Joeckel, the Texas A&M offensive tackle. - Ian Rapoport
Feb. 22: Chiefs unlikely to take a quarterback first overall - Jason Cole

Feb. 20: The Kansas City Star considers the Chiefs "unlikely" to use the No. 1 overall pick on a quarterback.

Feb. 17: "There is no quarterback where personnel guys can definitely say, 'He's a first-round pick.' There were so many inconsistencies in the collective group. There was not one guy that stood up and said, 'I'm the guy in the position this year.'" - General manager John Dorsey

Jan. 27: "We hear three teams who select at the top of round two, including the Kansas City Chiefs, Philadelphia Eagles and New York Jets, think highly of [Ryan] Nassib." - Tony Pauline.

Jan. 27: I'm hearing very quiet unsubstantiated rumors that the Chiefs may be leaning Joeckel in the first and then Tyler Wilson in the 2nd. I still think that Geno Smith is the odds on favorite, right now, at No. 1 overall but I'm hearing rumors of other possibilities. Still a long way to go to Draft Day. - Chiefs source.

Just a bunch of opinions and rumors.

[ct]

Originally Posted by BossChief

TBG posted that the draft compensation had to be agreed to for Miami to be able to talk to Alberts agent.

That part is obvious because Miami already has one franchise player and they can't have two...so unless they plan on giving up 2 first round picks for Albert, they needed to get that part done first and a deal can't be completed till the compensation and long term deal are in place.

There is a thread that reports Miami is willing to meet Alberts contract demands. I'm on my phone or I'd link it for you.

BA is no longer a FP, he signed the contract.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Direckshun

In other words, the simplest explanation is that the Chiefs are almost certainly going to take Joeckel, and we're getting flooded with bullshit days before the draft as a smokescreen.

I'm not sure how possible trade to Miami is a smokescreen unless you think that there are multiple teams interested the 1.1 pick and adding Miami might drive up the price.