Chiefs Seriously, how did we look last night? - Page 2

Carlota69 · 08-08-2008, 11:41 AM

I live in Vegas, so absolutely no coverage of the game, Sporscenter didn't tell me shit and I cant go through 55 pages of a official ChiefsVsBears thread.

Did Croyle look lost? LJ back to form? Defense? Rookies? Did we suck vienna sausages or Big Royal Weenies?

Priest31kc · 08-08-2008, 12:16 PM

Actually the 2nd and 3rd string O Lines were pretty damn good. Unlike last preseason where we went 3 and out every series because the line was so bad. They actually gave Thigpen ALOT of time, notice we went downfield because we had protection, and the game winning TD was down the field for a 27 yd. TD. It was nice to see our QBs not sacked in 2 seconds, and we could finally see what our WRs have. And they looked really good, i think its safe to say our WR core will be better than last year.

Hootie · 08-08-2008, 12:18 PM

I knew Solari was bad...but wow, he makes Chan Gailey look like, I don't even know...a damn good football coach, that's for sure.

Like I said...that first series was the best offensive series we've had since Herm Edwards was hired.

And good ol' Hootie was content with a FG once we hit 3rd and 15 before Croyle unleashed a beautiful throw to Franklin and Franklin held on even after getting popped by the safety for 25 yards...

I was Hermified...but that 1st series showed me the light once again.

CoMoChief · 08-08-2008, 12:28 PM

The tackling was bullshit last night.

Everyone is going to run up our ass if that doesn't improve.

There was NO excuse for the Wolfe check down pass for the TD. Brackenridge needs to be cut simply because of his performance last night. Brutal. Morgan didn't play well either. The LB's at the second level mis read and over ran plays. Pretty much looked like shit all over on defense.

**dirk digler** · 08-08-2008, 12:32 PM

I agree with pretty what everyone else has stated but the one thing that I took notice of is how much quicker this team is compared to years past. We are young but we will able to make some plays just because we are alot quicker on the field.

Deberg_1990 · 08-08-2008, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

The LB's at the second level mis read and over ran plays.

Gun hasnt really fixed anything in four years. The talent is better perhaps, but i hestitate to say he actually fixed anything.

**J Diddy** · 08-08-2008, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by CoMoChief

The tackling was bullshit last night.

Everyone is going to run up our ass if that doesn't improve.

There was NO excuse for the Wolfe check down pass for the TD. Brackenridge needs to be cut simply because of his performance last night. Brutal. Morgan didn't play well either. The LB's at the second level mis read and over ran plays. Pretty much looked like shit all over on defense.

I thought the first team did fine

RustShack · 08-08-2008, 12:45 PM

First team held them to 3, thats not bad. It does sound like there is still a lot to be improved though. I think when Doresy comes back Tank should be moved over to Ron Edwards spot and just throw Harris back in the lineup over Thomas.

Simply Red · 08-08-2008, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

We looked like the beginning of something...

Well that's good I suppose.

Chief Faithful · 08-08-2008, 12:55 PM

So many are down on the defense, but they did a much better job of filling gaps on run defense. I think they will be better against the run, but pass rush may not be as good as last year.

It looks to me like this years weak spots will be RG, DE & MLB.

**Rausch** · 08-08-2008, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

So many are down on the defense, but they did a much better job of filling gaps on run defense. I think they will be better against the run, but pass rush may not be as good as last year.

It looks to me like this years weak spots will be RG, DE & MLB.

IIRC we gave up 3 pts in the first half.

3 pts.

That's not even all the starters...

CoMoChief · 08-08-2008, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Faithful

So many are down on the defense, but they did a much better job of filling gaps on run defense. I think they will be better against the run, but pass rush may not be as good as last year.

It looks to me like this years weak spots will be RG, DE & MLB.

You can add safety and CB to that list, especially if we continue to NOT have a pass rush thats worth a shit.

Sure-Oz · 08-08-2008, 01:04 PM

1st team defense held them to 3 cause their offense sucks balls

What is the real difference on the d-line this year, just hali in a diff position and allen missing? Add Dorsey we should get pressure i hope

RustShack · 08-08-2008, 01:05 PM

We just need linemen on both sides... that will upgrade every postion.

chiefsngop · 08-08-2008, 01:38 PM

1st string O didn't look half bad. Sippio was great late in the game IMO. Thigpen had a couple good tosses, but I felt he looked like sh*t for the most part.

As far as our defense you guys have talked about the lack of qb pressure and poor tackling, but did anyone else notice the constant wide open receivers in the flats ? It looked to me like for all 4 quarters that every time da Bears threw to the flats they had a wide open guy. Appeared to be more of a scheme issue than personell to me, as they were WIDE OPEN in the flats all night ?

When they didn't throw to the flats we should've had 4 or 5 coverage sacks but the front four couldn't get past the line of scrimmage.

Blindside58 · 08-08-2008, 01:42 PM

1. We didn't crap our pants
2. Preseason D is so vanilla, you hardly ever see QB pressure.
3. We won a preseason game...unlike last year
3. We will be able to defend the bootleg since we will practice against it.
4. Cornerback play looked promising
5. We appear to have a real OC unlike the past

08-08-2008, 11:41 AM
Carlota69 MVP Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Las Vegas Casino cash: $9925282	Seriously, how did we look last night? I live in Vegas, so absolutely no coverage of the game, Sporscenter didn't tell me shit and I cant go through 55 pages of a official ChiefsVsBears thread. Did Croyle look lost? LJ back to form? Defense? Rookies? Did we suck vienna sausages or Big Royal Weenies?
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08-08-2008, 12:16 PM	#16
Priest31kc Veteran Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: JCMO Casino cash: $5285291	Actually the 2nd and 3rd string O Lines were pretty damn good. Unlike last preseason where we went 3 and out every series because the line was so bad. They actually gave Thigpen ALOT of time, notice we went downfield because we had protection, and the game winning TD was down the field for a 27 yd. TD. It was nice to see our QBs not sacked in 2 seconds, and we could finally see what our WRs have. And they looked really good, i think its safe to say our WR core will be better than last year.
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08-08-2008, 12:18 PM	#17
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	I knew Solari was bad...but wow, he makes Chan Gailey look like, I don't even know...a damn good football coach, that's for sure. Like I said...that first series was the best offensive series we've had since Herm Edwards was hired. And good ol' Hootie was content with a FG once we hit 3rd and 15 before Croyle unleashed a beautiful throw to Franklin and Franklin held on even after getting popped by the safety for 25 yards... I was Hermified...but that 1st series showed me the light once again.
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08-08-2008, 12:28 PM	#18
CoMoChief Mahomes Dynasty Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Parts Unknown Casino cash: $8052254	The tackling was bullshit last night. Everyone is going to run up our ass if that doesn't improve. There was NO excuse for the Wolfe check down pass for the TD. Brackenridge needs to be cut simply because of his performance last night. Brutal. Morgan didn't play well either. The LB's at the second level mis read and over ran plays. Pretty much looked like shit all over on defense. __________________
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08-08-2008, 12:32 PM	#19
dirk digler Please squeeze Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Clinton, MO Casino cash: $3244644	I agree with pretty what everyone else has stated but the one thing that I took notice of is how much quicker this team is compared to years past. We are young but we will able to make some plays just because we are alot quicker on the field.
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08-08-2008, 12:45 PM	#22
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $4686954	First team held them to 3, thats not bad. It does sound like there is still a lot to be improved though. I think when Doresy comes back Tank should be moved over to Ron Edwards spot and just throw Harris back in the lineup over Thomas. __________________
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08-08-2008, 12:55 PM	#24
Chief Faithful Predicting Chiefs Victory Join Date: Sep 2001 Casino cash: $9966500	So many are down on the defense, but they did a much better job of filling gaps on run defense. I think they will be better against the run, but pass rush may not be as good as last year. It looks to me like this years weak spots will be RG, DE & MLB.
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08-08-2008, 01:05 PM	#28
RustShack **** That Noise Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Jack Trice Casino cash: $4686954	We just need linemen on both sides... that will upgrade every postion. __________________
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08-08-2008, 01:38 PM	#29
chiefsngop Starter Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	1st string O didn't look half bad. Sippio was great late in the game IMO. Thigpen had a couple good tosses, but I felt he looked like sh*t for the most part. As far as our defense you guys have talked about the lack of qb pressure and poor tackling, but did anyone else notice the constant wide open receivers in the flats ? It looked to me like for all 4 quarters that every time da Bears threw to the flats they had a wide open guy. Appeared to be more of a scheme issue than personell to me, as they were WIDE OPEN in the flats all night ? When they didn't throw to the flats we should've had 4 or 5 coverage sacks but the front four couldn't get past the line of scrimmage.
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08-08-2008, 01:42 PM	#30
Blindside58 Starter Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: KC Baby! Casino cash: $10013075	1. We didn't crap our pants 2. Preseason D is so vanilla, you hardly ever see QB pressure. 3. We won a preseason game...unlike last year 3. We will be able to defend the bootleg since we will practice against it. 4. Cornerback play looked promising 5. We appear to have a real OC unlike the past
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