Football The Pioli Watch Thread - Page 60

cardken · 02:26 PM

I'm hijacking the thread starter to use for an "updates" area. Sorry cardken. Here are a few recent updates:

Last updated 1/13/09 2:30pm CDT (final update)

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Originally Posted by Basileus777

New England Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli has agreed to become head of football operations for the Kansas City Chiefs, two NFL sources confirmed to ESPN's Michael Smith.
The vice president for player personnel at New England, Pioli, 43, is close to Patriots coach Bill Belichick and has been with the Patriots for nine years. Pioli would find a warm welcome in Kansas City. At the last Chiefs' home game, shortly after the embattled Carl Peterson resigned after 20 years as president, general manager and CEO, several signs were spotted in the crowd proclaiming, "We want Pioli." Information from The Associated Press was used in this report.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3830515

Zouk · 01-06-2009, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

First two picks he made after being hired/promoted from being an OL coach in college to being put in charge of player personnel at Baltimore?
Jonathan Ogdan and Ray Lewis

I like Pioli a lot but this is not correct. Pioli was the director of pro personnel for the Ravens in 1996, so he did not have a big role with the draft. He was involved with free agency.

Agent V · 01-06-2009, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by chief4life

John Clayton just said on Mike and Mike that the meeting went very well. He expects Pioli to get hired and for Herm to get fired. Not facts, just what he said so take it for its worth. John usually is right on top of things though so i feel pretty confident this is going down

I'm prepping the happy dance, but I won't do it until I get official word.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-06-2009, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

First two picks he made after being hired/promoted from being an OL coach in college to being put in charge of player personnel at Baltimore? Jonathan Ogdan and Ray Lewis

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zouk

I like Pioli a lot but this is not correct. Pioli was the director of pro personnel for the Ravens in 1996, so he did not have a big role with the draft. He was involved with free agency.

Ogden was 100% Ozzie Newsome.

EVERYONE in the Ravens organization wanted Lawrence Phillips - the scouts, the coaches and even owner Art Modell.

Ultra Peanut · 01-06-2009, 12:05 PM

So what you're saying is that it was a no-lose situation.

Chiefnj2 · 01-06-2009, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zouk

I like Pioli a lot but this is not correct. Pioli was the director of pro personnel for the Ravens in 1996, so he did not have a big role with the draft. He was involved with free agency.

Who was the college personnel at that time?

Zouk · 01-06-2009, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Who was the college personnel at that time?

I'm pretty sure it was Phil Savage.

But for first day picks I say credit the GM and the HC. Credit the director of college personnel for day 2 picks usually.

Mr. Plow · 01-06-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

I'm pretty sure it was Phil Savage.

The guy from the Wonder Years?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 01-06-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Zouk

I'm pretty sure it was Phil Savage.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. Can't find what his title was at the time.

Craqhead · 01-06-2009, 12:25 PM

http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal..._runs_options/

Pioli runs options
He's taking his time mulling situations
By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff | January 6, 2009

The process began at a rapid-fire pace, the Cleveland Browns acting decisively to speak with Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli to run their football operation.

At this time last week, when Pioli was preparing for his Wednesday interview, the urgency of it seemed to indicate he was set to leave New England after nine years, determined to step away from his successful partnership with Bill Belichick and steer his own ship.

Yet here we are, six days later, and there has been no movement with Pioli. What happened, and what's about to happen?

When Pioli left his meeting with Browns owner Randy Lerner, the sides agreed that they'd revisit in about a week. That would give Pioli time to meet with the Kansas City Chiefs about running their football operation, assess all his options, and come to a decision as to what he'd like to do. At the same time, Lerner could continue his search and come to a better comfort level with his own analysis of the situation.

Thus, some type of movement - one way or the other - should be coming within the next few days.

As it stands, Pioli is weighing three options: the Browns, the Chiefs, and staying with the Patriots.

Some might ask why Pioli is even considering leaving New England, given that in his first eight years on the job - which included four trips to the Super Bowl and three championships - he has declined all potential opportunities, most recently turning down interest from the Seattle Seahawks in 2006 and the New York Giants in 2007.

But now, after seeing his understudy Thomas Dimitroff have success with the Falcons in his first year as general manager, Pioli is dipping his toes in the water and taking a deliberate approach to it all.

As with Dimitroff, the chance to step out on his own is enticing enough for him to listen to what other teams have to say. Not to mention the projected financial boost if he lands one of the jobs.

When analyzing the three options, all are appealing, though in different ways.

In Cleveland, Pioli would be returning to the city where he landed his first NFL gig, as a pro personnel assistant in 1992. Browns fans are hungry for a winner and Pioli seemingly would be given control to shape the team, and coaching staff, as he wishes. Negatives? The Browns annually will face a tough road competing in the AFC North against Pittsburgh and Baltimore, and are void of some draft choices, which will make the rebuilding project more challenging.

In Kansas City, Pioli would have a chance to form a special partnership with 43-year-old chairman Clark Hunt, son of the late Lamar Hunt, whose history in the game - and loyalty to his employees - is well-documented. This is Clark Hunt's first big hire and if he hits it off with Pioli in the interview, Pioli might look at a young roster, plenty of salary cap space, a weak AFC West, and see a quicker-than-expected Bill Parcells-like turnaround as a very real possibility.

Then there's staying in New England. Pioli works mostly behind the scenes with the Patriots, overseeing the pro and college personnel departments while also negotiating contracts. He seldom conducts interviews, but when the Patriots plug in players like rookie free agent BenJarvus Green-Ellis and don't miss a beat, as they did this season, it's a reflection of the work Pioli and his scouts do on a daily basis. They find players who fit Belichick's system.

The question now is whether Pioli wants to implement a Pioli system somewhere else, and whether the fit is right.

The coming days should provide more clarity, and perhaps finality, as to where things are headed.
==============================================================

Prolly no real info today as the Chiefs are gonna be saying goodybye to Carl, but ya neva know.

**dirk digler** · 01-06-2009, 12:38 PM

The more I think about this IMVHO non-homer opinion the Chiefs are looking like the best opportunity for Pioli if he wants to get out on his own.

Frankie · 01-06-2009, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

The guy from the Wonder Years?

No but he and Dr. Phil did have a baby together.

DaWolf · 01-06-2009, 01:34 PM

RE Clayton, you can hear him say this here:

http://search.espn.go.com/clayton/

Click on "Best of Mike and Mike: 1/6"

Clayton talks about Pioli and Herm at about the 7 minute mark, real quick blurb but more news than anyone else is reporting...

BucEyedPea · 01-06-2009, 01:50 PM

This thread has made me suicidal.

**RealSNR** · 01-06-2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BucEyedPea

This thread has made me suicidal.

Shame, really. This decreases the likelihood that you'll win 3 more Superbowls.

Oh doh.

jiveturkey · 01-06-2009, 02:05 PM

I saw on ESPN this afternoon that Clark is interview Ray from San Diego in the next day or two down in Dallas.

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Craqhead Huh Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: KC, Mo Casino cash: $10004900	http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal..._runs_options/ Pioli runs options He's taking his time mulling situations By Mike Reiss, Globe Staff \| January 6, 2009 The process began at a rapid-fire pace, the Cleveland Browns acting decisively to speak with Patriots vice president of player personnel Scott Pioli to run their football operation. At this time last week, when Pioli was preparing for his Wednesday interview, the urgency of it seemed to indicate he was set to leave New England after nine years, determined to step away from his successful partnership with Bill Belichick and steer his own ship. Yet here we are, six days later, and there has been no movement with Pioli. What happened, and what's about to happen? When Pioli left his meeting with Browns owner Randy Lerner, the sides agreed that they'd revisit in about a week. That would give Pioli time to meet with the Kansas City Chiefs about running their football operation, assess all his options, and come to a decision as to what he'd like to do. At the same time, Lerner could continue his search and come to a better comfort level with his own analysis of the situation. Thus, some type of movement - one way or the other - should be coming within the next few days. As it stands, Pioli is weighing three options: the Browns, the Chiefs, and staying with the Patriots. Some might ask why Pioli is even considering leaving New England, given that in his first eight years on the job - which included four trips to the Super Bowl and three championships - he has declined all potential opportunities, most recently turning down interest from the Seattle Seahawks in 2006 and the New York Giants in 2007. But now, after seeing his understudy Thomas Dimitroff have success with the Falcons in his first year as general manager, Pioli is dipping his toes in the water and taking a deliberate approach to it all. As with Dimitroff, the chance to step out on his own is enticing enough for him to listen to what other teams have to say. Not to mention the projected financial boost if he lands one of the jobs. When analyzing the three options, all are appealing, though in different ways. In Cleveland, Pioli would be returning to the city where he landed his first NFL gig, as a pro personnel assistant in 1992. Browns fans are hungry for a winner and Pioli seemingly would be given control to shape the team, and coaching staff, as he wishes. Negatives? The Browns annually will face a tough road competing in the AFC North against Pittsburgh and Baltimore, and are void of some draft choices, which will make the rebuilding project more challenging. In Kansas City, Pioli would have a chance to form a special partnership with 43-year-old chairman Clark Hunt, son of the late Lamar Hunt, whose history in the game - and loyalty to his employees - is well-documented. This is Clark Hunt's first big hire and if he hits it off with Pioli in the interview, Pioli might look at a young roster, plenty of salary cap space, a weak AFC West, and see a quicker-than-expected Bill Parcells-like turnaround as a very real possibility. Then there's staying in New England. Pioli works mostly behind the scenes with the Patriots, overseeing the pro and college personnel departments while also negotiating contracts. He seldom conducts interviews, but when the Patriots plug in players like rookie free agent BenJarvus Green-Ellis and don't miss a beat, as they did this season, it's a reflection of the work Pioli and his scouts do on a daily basis. They find players who fit Belichick's system. The question now is whether Pioli wants to implement a Pioli system somewhere else, and whether the fit is right. The coming days should provide more clarity, and perhaps finality, as to where things are headed. ============================================================== Prolly no real info today as the Chiefs are gonna be saying goodybye to Carl, but ya neva know. __________________
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DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	RE Clayton, you can hear him say this here: http://search.espn.go.com/clayton/ Click on "Best of Mike and Mike: 1/6" Clayton talks about Pioli and Herm at about the 7 minute mark, real quick blurb but more news than anyone else is reporting...
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