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Old 11-04-2013, 05:32 PM  
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****Official 2014 STL Cardinals thread ****
2011 WS Championship
2012 one win from another WS
2013 two wins from another WS title
2014?
  • This is a franchise that has made the postseason 10 times in the last 14 seasons.
  • Reached three World Series in the last decade, and won as many championships (two) the past eight seasons as it did from 1965 to 2005.
  • Our new Manager has more post season experience than any other manager in baseball, except the Giants manager.
  • Three million attendance? Take it to the bank.
  • 60 post season wins since 2004. 20+ wins more than any other team.
  • Only one of the last 14 seasons has been a losing one.
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Old 04-19-2014, 02:07 PM   #706
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Williams said in the post game interviews he benched Harper for not running out a ground ball back to the pitcher earlier in the game.
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Old 04-19-2014, 04:07 PM   #707
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Williams said in the post game interviews he benched Harper for not running out a ground ball back to the pitcher earlier in the game.
Glad to see a manager have some balls honestly. The Nats are greatly underperforming so far.

The Cards are slightly but I would rather have a slow start and strong middle and finish than the usual strong start and fart out in the middle causing a late season surge to be necessary
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I can live with getting shelled, but that shit should get you benched. If he ever makes a goof like that, he needs to lose the job for a week.
dude, he got hit by the ball and it threw him off. He's 3 years removed from high school. It was a high pressure situation. People are asking him about his velocity, whats wrong? He's had some bad outings. He's handled pressure situations pretty damn good for his age. Can't expect perfection.

We have made some real bonehead plays lately and throwing to the wrong base = bench the closer?

His velocity is an issue. When he is throwing 94-95, it looks flat and hittable. He throws it 98-99 he looks like nails out there.
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Old 04-19-2014, 06:39 PM   #709
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dude, he got hit by the ball and it threw him off. He's 3 years removed from high school. It was a high pressure situation. People are asking him about his velocity, whats wrong? He's had some bad outings. He's handled pressure situations pretty damn good for his age. Can't expect perfection.

We have made some real bonehead plays lately and throwing to the wrong base = bench the closer?

His velocity is an issue. When he is throwing 94-95, it looks flat and hittable. He throws it 98-99 he looks like nails out there.
He was throwing upper 90s today, and throwing to the wrong base is a Little League mistake.

I can live with physical mistakes. Hell, I can even understand someone loafing out a ball on the infield. But that shit is intolerable.
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Glad to see a manager have some balls honestly. The Nats are greatly underperforming so far.

The Cards are slightly but I would rather have a slow start and strong middle and finish than the usual strong start and fart out in the middle causing a late season surge to be necessary
The Nats are on pace for a 90 win season right now and the Cardinals are on pace for 99-63 while playing a murderous schedule.

Think about who they've played so far:

Washington: very good team
Milwaukee: best record in baseball
Cincy*2: playoff team last year; very good team as well
Pittsburgh: 95 win team last year; very good this year
Cubs: Yeah, they suck dick.

They've also played 6 games at home and 12 on the road. Altogether, the W-L is fantastic at this point.
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He was throwing upper 90s today
Today was the first time. After getting hit by the ball and the visit to the mound did he start throwing 98-99 mph. Something changed. Maybe the coach saw something in his mechanics. Pitchers don't just start throwing their boiler plate fastballs 5 mph faster in the same outing.
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No wonder people hate Cardinal fans....slow start?
I think you see this in all the top teams fans in all sports. Go look at any top teams fan forum no matter the sport. The bar is set high. Expectations are different. It's not a "Cardinals" thing.
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I think you see this in all the top teams fans in all sports. Go look at any top teams fan forum no matter the sport. The bar is set high. Expectations are different. It's not a "Cardinals" thing.
There's a difference between high expectations and ridiculous ones. The Cardinals haven't played a representative schedule so far; they've played an incredibly difficult one--two thirds of their games on the road and almost all against teams that will win 85+ games. Nevertheless, they have won over 60% of their games.
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My comment was more in line with their slow offensive start.

If we can keep the pitching solid and get Craig, Holiday, and Carp rolling it will be fantastic.
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That just shows you how much the small things matter. Bourjos gets hosed on a 3-1 call and could give up on the AB, but sticks in and draws the walk. Then Strasburg finally makes a mistake and Miller pounces on it, hitting a double to left and driving in the run.

That's excellent baseball.
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....and Martinez blows it. 2 to 2.
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They had an excellent chance to steal that one, but played a pretty shitty baseball game overall. The quality of baseball was ass for most of that series.

Once Kelly comes off the DL I'd like to see them keep Fornatoro or Rondon up. I'm tired of Maness. He needs batted ball luck to survive because he has AA stuff.
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