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Old 11-09-2012, 08:21 PM  
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Clark Hunt met with Marty?
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KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -
Chiefs fans are excitedly buzzing about whether team owner Clark Hunt is preparing to offer former coach Marty Schottenheimer the general manager position or get his help on reversing the team's declining fortunes.

SiriusXM NFL Radio reported that Schottenheimer was at Arrowhead Stadium on Friday to meet with Hunt, who is in Kansas City. This set Chiefs fans on Twitter and Facebook afire.

The team flatly denies that Schottenheimer was at the practice facility today.

However, left unclear was whether Schottenheimer and Hunt met at a different location, met earlier this week or whether they have a meeting later this week.

General Manager Scott Pioli is under fire after the Chiefs 1-7 start and a disappointing four-year tenure in Kansas City after he left the New England Patriots.

Tell us what you think. Should the Chiefs bring back "Martyball" or hire Schottenheimer as a consultant? Go to
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:02 PM   #301
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He ran extremely tough camps and practices. Players that cry about that are mentally weak.
He did that his first two seasons in St. Louis and was nearly fired for it because the results were atrocious. Only Georgia Frontiere stopped Shaw from firing.

Vermeil is a ****ing myth. His teams were weak defensively, he and Peterson convinced Hunt to hire all of his buddies in Kansas City, where they had not only the largest coaching staff in the NFL but the most expensive, and he was a pussy when it came to firing those very same underachieving assistants.

**** Vermeil. His "philosophy" WRECKED this team.
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:03 PM   #302
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He did that his first two seasons in St. Louis and was nearly fired for it because the results were atrocious. Only Georgia Frontiere stopped Shaw from firing.

Vermeil is a ****ing myth. His teams were weak defensively, he and Peterson convinced Hunt to hire all of his buddies in Kansas City, where they had not only the largest coaching staff in the NFL but the most expensive, and he was a pussy when it came to firing those very same underachieving assistants.

**** Vermeil. His "philosophy" WRECKED this team.
Then Herm finished it off...

IT may take another 2-4 years to recover from Herm...
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:03 PM   #303
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Im only talking about his offenses.

I will ALWAYS believe that the 2003 and 2005 chiefs would have been superbowl contenders IF HIS TEAM HAD A DEFENSE.

That was his fatal flaw.
Just an average defense would have done it. Hell, against the Colts in the playoffs they beat us because their defense forced us to punt ONCE. Our defense never forced a punt. That was the difference in the game. If we could have just stopped them once or twice we could have won.
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:03 PM   #304
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So those mentally weak players gave max effort for Dick after they cried to management about Dick.

That about sum it up?
Depends. What players are you saying went to management? I never heard about that and would genuinely like to know.

I do know that Dick took over a team that was hot garbage and made them a champion in 3 years.
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Old 11-11-2012, 02:04 PM   #305
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Just an average defense would have done it. Hell, against the Colts in the playoffs they beat us because their defense forced us to punt ONCE. Our defense never forced a punt. That was the difference in the game. If we could have just stopped them once or twice we could have won.
There were no punts in that game.
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Then Herm finished it off...

IT may take another 2-4 years to recover from Herm...
That's total bullshit.

Herm is the guy with the balls to keep Carl Peterson from putting bandaids on a sinking ship. Herm went above Carl's head and convinced Hunt to blow the team up.

Herm set the table perfectly for Pioli. Pioli's the one who fumbled.
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He did that his first two seasons in St. Louis and was nearly fired for it because the results were atrocious. Only Georgia Frontiere stopped Shaw from firing.

Vermeil is a ****ing myth. His teams were weak defensively, he and Peterson convinced Hunt to hire all of his buddies in Kansas City, where they had not only the largest coaching staff in the NFL but the most expensive, and he was a pussy when it came to firing those very same underachieving assistants.

**** Vermeil. His "philosophy" WRECKED this team.
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Depends. What players are you saying went to management? I never heard about that and would genuinely like to know.

I do know that Dick took over a team that was hot garbage and made them a champion in 3 years.
JFC, Dude.

It was John Shaw, who acquired Faulk, Green, Martz, Holt, etc. and so on.

If Vermeil was SO instrumental in their Super Bowl team, why was he pushed out the door IMMEDIATELY?
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Just an average defense would have done it. Hell, against the Colts in the playoffs they beat us because their defense forced us to punt ONCE. Our defense never forced a punt. That was the difference in the game. If we could have just stopped them once or twice we could have won.
Two moves. The Chiefs fire their crony Lynn Stiles and hire a real personnel evaluator like Kuharich to make draft day moves. The Chiefs fire Greg Robinson sooner and hire somebody OUTSIDE of their trees.

Those 2 moves could have made the Chiefs a possible super bowl team. It's frustrating as shit to think about how much this team has been wrecked by croneyism.
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Depends. What players are you saying went to management? I never heard about that and would genuinely like to know.

I do know that Dick took over a team that was hot garbage and made them a champion in 3 years.
You weren't aware that there was a near mutiny in STL?
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Depends. What players are you saying went to management? I never heard about that and would genuinely like to know.

I do know that Dick took over a team that was hot garbage and made them a champion in 3 years.
It was really well publicised.

Were you in a hole?

It was a group of 10 to 12 players, the team leaders, most of whom all contributed to the SB teams.
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That's total bullshit.

Herm is the guy with the balls to keep Carl Peterson from putting bandaids on a sinking ship. Herm went above Carl's head and convinced Hunt to blow the team up.

Herm set the table perfectly for Pioli. Pioli's the one who fumbled.
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You weren't aware that there was a near mutiny in STL?
Proof that Vermeil didn't know DICK about offense:

Tony Banks over Kurt Warner.
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What about his statement is untrue?

Herm wrestled away personnel control from Peterson in early 2008 and convinced Clark Hunt to build through the draft.

The result was one of the best and deepest drafts in Chiefs history.

Pioli should have been able to add a QB, another pass rusher, offensive line depth, etc. in 2009 and taken this team from 2-14 to at least 8-8.

Instead, he oversaw the worst draft in Franchise History and set this team back four years.
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As much as you and I dislike Herman ****ing Edwards, this is one thing the verbose idiot, zilla, has right.
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