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Old 11-09-2012, 08:21 PM  
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Clark Hunt met with Marty?
http://www.kctv5.com/story/20058706/...schottenheimer

KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -
Chiefs fans are excitedly buzzing about whether team owner Clark Hunt is preparing to offer former coach Marty Schottenheimer the general manager position or get his help on reversing the team's declining fortunes.

SiriusXM NFL Radio reported that Schottenheimer was at Arrowhead Stadium on Friday to meet with Hunt, who is in Kansas City. This set Chiefs fans on Twitter and Facebook afire.

The team flatly denies that Schottenheimer was at the practice facility today.

However, left unclear was whether Schottenheimer and Hunt met at a different location, met earlier this week or whether they have a meeting later this week.

General Manager Scott Pioli is under fire after the Chiefs 1-7 start and a disappointing four-year tenure in Kansas City after he left the New England Patriots.

Tell us what you think. Should the Chiefs bring back "Martyball" or hire Schottenheimer as a consultant? Go to
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:25 AM   #121
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Not a big surprise.

They met with him before the Gun and DV hires as well.

To me, this is good news.

Means we're (at minimum) looking for a new HC...
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:31 AM   #122
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The question is; what does Marty bring to the table?

I don't see any true benefit (football-wise) to involve him. Can he evaluate talent? I honestly don't know. He certainly isn't in line to coach. The game has, in large measure, passed him by.

No ... I see this as a PR move, at best. A large number of KC fans still like Marty. He brings back good memories for them. Clark is probably thinking that involving Marty would supplant the current feelings of despair with a sense of hope for a return to the days of playoff games and dominant defenses or something like that.

The fact that Marty never won anything of note is often overlooked by the DEB ALL CAPSs of the world. In that respect, Clark may simply be looking for ways to stifle the griping.

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Old 11-10-2012, 10:34 AM   #123
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The question is; what does Marty bring to the table?

I don't see any true benefit (football-wise) to involve him. Can he evaluate talent? I honestly don't know. He certainly isn't in line to coach. The game has, in large measure, passed him by.

No ... I see this as a PR move, at best. A large number of KC fans still like Marty. He brings back good memories for them. Clark is probably thinking that involving Marty would supplant the current feelings of despair with a sense of hope for a return to the days of playoff games and dominant defenses or something like that.

The fact that Marty never won anything of note is often overlooked by the DEB ALL CAPSs of the world. In that respect, Clark may simply be looking for ways to stifle the griping.

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A guy like Marty would be great in an advisor role because he fought with AJ Smith, so he knows what it's like to work with a GM with power issues. I would hope Marty pushes for the hire of a more open GM who can work with a head coach.

The red flag being, of course... did he actually recommend Pioli and if he did, did he just miss the power issue? Or did he just not care? Other red flag being... what if he wants to be the GM?
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Old 11-10-2012, 10:45 AM   #124
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GMs who are ex-coaches is a very rare beastie, is it not?

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Old 11-10-2012, 10:46 AM   #125
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Please not Marty.

That would be the "Chiefs" thing to do though. When the situation requires something bold and new, the Chiefs decide to go with old and stale.
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Clark Hunt is putting a feeler out to see how the fan base reacts to "Marty".

He's going to remake Marty vs Elway all over again.

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Old 11-10-2012, 10:59 AM   #127
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Please not Marty.

That would be the "Chiefs" thing to do though. When the situation requires something bold and new, the Chiefs decide to go with old and stale.
Well, I know it's uncommon in a throw-away society where we either completely ignore the elderly or toss them into homes as soon as they're of age, but the advice of experienced humans can often translate into a valuable advantage.

I've frequently found the council of older people to be extremely useful. Not only have they provided my life and business activities with meaningful insight and guidance, I now make some of the best damn oatmeal this side of the Mississippi.

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The general feeling among the fans is that Marty would have won it all, had it not been for Elway, right?

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Old 11-10-2012, 11:06 AM   #130
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A NFL coach has to be able to lead....the entire roster has to be behind the HC, and has to be on the same page.

Marty isn't a x'o and o's guy. Marty is a leader. He's a coach that gets the best out of his players.

This team has talent. What they lack is the ability to play well together. This team has zero leadership. None, zilch, nada.... There is no Will Sheilds, Waters, Weigman. The people that are supposed to be leaders are not....they're great players w/ superb talent, but they don't lead a locker room.
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Well Marty was indeed snakebitten.

Can't blame Marty for the fumble in CLE

Can't blame Marty for Lin Elliott and his inability to kick FG's

Can't blame Marty for Montana getting hurt.


Sure there are many things you can blame Marty for...but had the above not happened, Marty would probably be a HOF coach right now.
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A NFL coach has to be able to lead....the entire roster has to be behind the HC, and has to be on the same page.

Marty isn't a x'o and o's guy. Marty is a leader. He's a coach that gets the best out of his players.

This team has talent. What they lack is the ability to play well together. This team has zero leadership. None, zilch, nada.... There is no Will Sheilds, Waters, Weigman. The people that are supposed to be leaders are not....they're great players w/ superb talent, but they don't lead a locker room.
Although true, unfortunately that's only one of the issues that is holding us back from making progress, Mr. CoMoChief.

We still lack talent at key positions and the depth on this squad is pathetic at best.

Then, you have to deal with the insane GM, the pitiable coaching, the conditioning of the players (or lack thereof) ... I mean, we have problems everywhere. And serious problems, to boot.

The fact is that the Chiefs are in a world of poop. An entire world of it with no poop scraper in sight.

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