Chiefs The constant negativity is tiresome. Who is ready to join me and move on? - Page 23

**BigRedChief** · 04:02 PM

I'm finding this constant negativity tiresome. We have sucked for years. We were an embarrassment. A big ****ing joke. I'm done with the negativity.

I wanted Geno. I think we overpaid for Smith. I'm scratching my head over some of their moves.

Reid and Dorsey obviously have a plan. For crissakes, Reid watched every down of every player for the whole ****ing year before he even met with Clark. I'm going to give them AT LEAST a half a season before I start calling them dumb-asses and screaming for their head.

I don't think I'm accepting mediocrity by choosing to not scream and yell and be totally pissed off by the moves so far. If you think so, you are entitled to you opinion.

I was an early and financial supporter of SOC. Season ticket holder for years. I think anyone would label me a hard core Chiefs fan. Just like most of the posters on this board. We deserve better than we have been given by our team. I will be a Chiefs fan until I become worm food. Lifes too short to go around pissed all the time. I did enough of that the last few years.

I'm going to chose to hope that Reid and Dorseys plan is sound and will result in the return of winning football and our first playoff win since the Montana era. Who's with me?

keg in kc · 03-14-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

Kind of hard to avoid since every ****ing thread is full of crying about it.

It's not all that hard to not go into a thread.

Also note how I'm in this thread, discussing something interesting (namely drafting a pass rusher earlier) instead of hopping on my soap box and trying to convince everyone everything sucks.

Or complaining about how happy everybody is in here.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-14-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

So you think donny avery and alex smith are just gonna ****ing light it up?

Donnie Avery had nearly 800 yards and three TD's last season in Indy. He's most definitely an upgrade over Breaston, Baldwin and McCluster. Or would you care to argue otherwise?

As for Smith, I don't expect him to become Eli Manning but I expect him to protect the ball much better than Matt Cassel ever did and I expect him to actually deliver a catchable ball which will enable the receiver run up field.

Unlike Cassel.

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

you drugged out hippie, been spending too much time in randy quaid's trailer

sober up and tell me tomorrow how much donnie avery and alex smith are gonna shred the nfl, queer

You're just ****ing weird.

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-14-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Look, I wish it'd been lower too, but I'm getting really tired of hearing this assumption presented as fact. All you need to drive a price up is one other bidder. It's entirely possible (and even likely) that there was at least one other team up against us.

I thought I read Raiders and possibly Jets, but no idea where I saw it

keg in kc · 03-14-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Look, I wish it'd been lower too, but I'm getting really tired of hearing this assumption presented as fact. All you need to drive a price up is one other bidder. It's entirely possible (and even likely) that there was at least one other team up against us.

I thought it pretty much was an accepted fact that nobody wanted him in 2012, hence he remained a 9er. That's what I'm referring to.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-14-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

We don't play a 4-3, we likely don't even play a 1-gap 3-4, and we're talking about the first pick in the draft. For a situational pass rusher. Or, for the sake of argument, we're talking about something maybe as low as 8. And to justify that you're using JPP, who went 15, or Kiawanuka at 32, or Umenyiora at 56, or 74 for Tuck.

(Not to mention Houston at 70)

So maybe they can afford to wait on that one.

I don't think there's a chance in hell that the Chiefs pick at 1.1.

And as teams like the Houston Texans found out last year when they lost Brian Cushing, it's nice to have more than two pass rushing OLB's on hand.

**BossChief** · 03-14-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

How is it speculation? Because Alex Smith had the best QBR in the league before his concussion. He was kicking ****ing ass up and down the field.

You can't say that "he needed to be replaced to get to the Super Bowl" because there was absolutely nothing to indicate that the 49ers were anything other than a Super Bowl team before his injury.

They were in the NFC Championship game, scored as many points as the Patriots did against the very same defense, but took them to overtime.

Jesus ****ing Christ, my mind is a spinning from all of the pure ****ing outright bullshit that's been spewed about Alex Smith, whether it's from dumb****s or GoChiefs.

Not true.

If Alex Smith is a superbowl quarterback, how come Colin Kaepernick averaged over 100 more yards per game than him with the same exact team?

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-14-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I thought it pretty much was an accepted fact that nobody wanted him in 2012, hence he remained a 9er. That's what I'm referring to.

That's actually not true.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...ct-sources-say

O.city · 03-14-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I don't think there's a chance in hell that the Chiefs pick at 1.1.

And as teams like the Houston Texans found out last year when they lost Brian Cushing, it's nice to have more than two pass rushing OLB's on hand.

IIRC, Cushing isn't really a pass rusher, but this is a logical statement.

I just don't think taking a situational player that high is quite what we should be looking at.

I would rather them just bite the bullet and take the tackle.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-14-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Not true.

If Alex Smith is a superbowl quarterback, how come Colin Kaepernick averaged over 100 more yards per game than him with the same exact team?

Dude, I'm not going to engage in some ****ing speculative argument.

You've been pulling this shit all offseason and can ****ing stick it up your ass.

**Ming the Merciless** · 03-14-2013, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Donnie Avery had nearly 800 yards and three TD's last season in Indy. He's most definitely an upgrade over Breaston, Baldwin and McCluster. Or would you care to argue otherwise?

I dont know much about avery, but Luck threw the ball a ton.....
4300 yards...

about 1.69 Donnie Averies more than smith ever has

take away those yards and almost 2 donnie averies disintegrate

DTLB58 · 03-14-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

This amazes me, because you're way smarter than this.

Why trade for a guy who is about to be cut?

Had they signed Smith as a FA and drafted a guy for competition/development, I don't think anyone here would be upset.

But to commit to the guy for the foreseeable future based on the compensation you give to get him?

Spinning wheels.

What if someone else traded for him first? Do we know we were they only team interested?
If what they said at the Presser is true and Reid has had a woody for Smith for years and has inquired about him in the past even to try and get him to Philly he wasn't going to let him get away. If someone else was out there or the Niners were putting out fake feelers I guess they won because of how much Reid was smitten with Smith.

ArrowheadMagic · 03-14-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

I thought it pretty much was an accepted fact that nobody wanted him in 2012, hence he remained a 9er. That's what I'm referring to.

Every FA that resigns does so because no one wants them?

O.city · 03-14-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Not true.

If Alex Smith is a superbowl quarterback, how come Colin Kaepernick averaged over 100 more yards per game than him with the same exact team?

Because Kaepernick is better?

Not sure how that hurts Smith.

keg in kc · 03-14-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Alright, who do you think they should take outside of QB?

I think they should keep moving back repeatedly and stock up on as many middle-round picks as possible. I believe this would be a great draft to have 3 or 4 (or more) selections in the 2nd and 3rd.

If that's not an option, I go with the best player on the board, regardless of position. If that's Dion Jordan (to fit your scenario) then great. Sharrif Floyd or Sheldon Richardson? Okay. Joeckel or Fisher? I'll pretend it didn't happen.

If I absotively, posilutely have to give you a name, I think might actually go for the wild card and take a flyer on cordarrelle patterson.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-14-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Pawnmower

I dont know much about avery, but Luck threw the ball a ton.....
4300 yards...

about 1.69 Donnie Averies more than smith ever has

And Alex Smith never had Donnie Avery or Reggie Wayne, even for a single season.

And before 2011, he'd never been coached by a competent coach, let alone COY like Luck.

View Poll Results: Can you chose to hope Reid/Dorsey have a sound plan?
They seems to have a good plan	96	29.09%
Benefit of doubt until proven otherwise	158	47.88%
Those guys have proven to be failures	2	0.61%
Their moves so far cause me great concern that they are inept	46	13.94%
Screw this team	24	7.27%
Gaz says WTF am I?	4	1.21%
Voters: 330. You may not vote on this poll

03-14-2013, 03:56 PM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $3149627 VARSITY	The constant negativity is tiresome. Who is ready to join me and move on? I'm finding this constant negativity tiresome. We have sucked for years. We were an embarrassment. A big **ing joke. I'm done with the negativity. I wanted Geno. I think we overpaid for Smith. I'm scratching my head over some of their moves. Reid and Dorsey obviously have a plan. For crissakes, Reid watched every down of every player for the whole *ing year before he even met with Clark. I'm going to give them AT LEAST a half a season before I start calling them dumb-asses and screaming for their head. I don't think I'm accepting mediocrity by choosing to not scream and yell and be totally pissed off by the moves so far. If you think so, you are entitled to you opinion. I was an early and financial supporter of SOC. Season ticket holder for years. I think anyone would label me a hard core Chiefs fan. Just like most of the posters on this board. We deserve better than we have been given by our team. I will be a Chiefs fan until I become worm food. Lifes too short to go around pissed all the time. I did enough of that the last few years. I'm going to chose to hope that Reid and Dorseys plan is sound and will result in the return of winning football and our first playoff win since the Montana era. Who's with me? Last edited by BigRedChief; 03-14-2013 at 04:02 PM..*
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