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Old 07-20-2012, 02:42 AM  
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The Dark Knight Rises *Spoilers* Thread
For anyone who has seen the movie and wants to discuss it.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:05 PM   #526
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Batman is a lot smarter than CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE.

In fact you can argue him charging into that giant fight like a deus ex machina was about the dumbest course of action he could possibly take if he wanted to survive and save Gotham.

Given the complicated machinations foisted upon us by Nolan at other times during the movie, it sure was a WTF sequence. I mean, how about taking out the dumb Talia subplot and putting a little more thought into the main character?

Probably took the movie down about 2 points for me.
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Old 07-29-2012, 06:25 PM   #527
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I was hoping for a Talia vs Catwoman fight at the end. Would have been cool.
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I was hoping for a Talia vs Catwoman fight at the end. Would have been cool.
Sounds like a waste of time. Catwoman's only function in the movie was to help Batman. Her character arc was very shallow.

Movie needed more Batman and more JGL. They should have had JGL do a lot of Catwoman's shit.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:29 PM   #529
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Batman is a lot smarter than CHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGE.

In fact you can argue him charging into that giant fight like a deus ex machina was about the dumbest course of action he could possibly take if he wanted to survive and save Gotham.

Given the complicated machinations foisted upon us by Nolan at other times during the movie, it sure was a WTF sequence. I mean, how about taking out the dumb Talia subplot and putting a little more thought into the main character?

Probably took the movie down about 2 points for me.
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Sounds like a waste of time. Catwoman's only function in the movie was to help Batman. Her character arc was very shallow.

Movie needed more Batman and more JGL. They should have had JGL do a lot of Catwoman's shit.
I can kind of agree with both of those in theory, but IMO the twist was good and Nolan made it work. It could have maybe been a little better without those things but the movie was so damn good (IMO of course) why change it.

The one thing Catwoman was good for was adding to the horror of batman getting shitkicked. I thought her contribution to that scene was tremendous.
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Old 07-29-2012, 07:39 PM   #530
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Sounds like a waste of time. Catwoman's only function in the movie was to help Batman. Her character arc was very shallow.

Movie needed more Batman and more JGL. They should have had JGL do a lot of Catwoman's shit.
Did you say you liked this movie? Doesn't sound like it.
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I love it like fat chicks love cake.

I enjoyed the steak dinner Nolan served up last time, more, though.
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Saw it again and loved it the same. The 2nd fight I agree could've been better. But didn't batman not know that mask was a 'weakness' until after the prison? That said he did in a way get higher ground and not going all out charging the 2nd time. Bane was beaten until Talia snuck in.

I'll likely see it one more time.
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Sounds like a waste of time. Catwoman's only function in the movie was to help Batman. Her character arc was very shallow.

Movie needed more Batman and more JGL. They should have had JGL do a lot of Catwoman's shit.
I agree that Catwoman's role in the story was pretty shallow in a way, and a Talia/Catwoman "cat fight" would have been pretty shallow as well, but I would have liked to see it just because I'm a dork like that.
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I love it like fat chicks love cake.

I enjoyed the steak dinner Nolan served up last time, more, though.
I'd say Batman was smarter in the dark knight but he had gone through alot after that movie. he definitely was older, more broken. This was the end of Batman's time obviously regardless...alot of personal emotion and anger was involved in his decisions unlike the first 2 flicks.

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Saw it again and loved it the same. The 2nd fight I agree could've been better. But didn't batman not know that mask was a 'weakness' until after the prison? That said he did in a way get higher ground and not going all out charging the 2nd time. Bane was beaten until Talia snuck in.

I'll likely see it one more time.
I saw it for a second time this weekend as well, and I still liked it too. One thing I still don't get after 2 viewings - probably because I'm stupid - but how did Bruce Wayne all of a sudden lose every penny he had? I didn't understand that part of the movie, with him losing everything, losing his spot on the board, and trusting "Talia" with whatever he trusted her with. Could someone explain? If he lost everything and was no longer a part of the company, how did he have any right to give Talia whatever power he gave her? Like I said, I may be just reeruned for not getting it. It does seem kinda far fetched that all of a sudden a billionaire could be broke overnight like that, but I at least would like to know how it happened in the movie.
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Because Nolan concocted a bullshit scene in the stock market that wouldn't have resulted in a billionaire going broke in reality.
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Because Nolan concocted a bullshit scene in the stock market that wouldn't have resulted in a billionaire going broke in reality.
Yeah but what exactly did they do.
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What did you like about the movie?
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Yeah but what exactly did they do.
He bought futures contracts in Wayne's name using the fingerprints Selina Kyle stole. I saw the movie last week so I don't remember too well but my guess is he used Bruce's money to bet on securities that would tank (especially after the attack on the stock exchange)
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What did you like about the movie?
It provoked emotional reactions in me over characters I cared about. And it was cool as ****.

It wasn't as tight as the first two films, though.
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