Rap Sheet: Talks With Alex Smith Not Progressing Well

[CaliforniaChief]

Team that will consider a 1st-round QB: The #Chiefs. Negotiations with Alex Smith aren’t progressing well. Must keep long-term options open

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) May 5, 2014

[l4z4rd]

Originally Posted by milkman

And the Giants had opportunities to overcome that first muff.

All they had to do was convert a third down or 2.

The niners lost the lead on that muff. They eventually overcame it to tie the game, unfortunately they couldn't overcome a second muff deep in their own end of the field.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by milkman

The excuses are never ending.

One ****ing conversion.

Just one.

It's because they aren't excuses, they're plain and simple facts that people like you choose to ignore in order to further your own arguments/agendas/opinions.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by l4z4rd

The niners lost the lead on that muff. They eventually overcame it to tie the game, unfortunately they couldn't overcome a second muff deep in their own end of the field.

oh, but those are only excuses.

When you like the QB? valid issues.
When you dislike the QB? excuses.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

It's because they aren't excuses, they're plain and simple facts that people like you choose to ignore in order to further your own opinions.

Eli Manning overcame those "facts" to convert 2 huge 3rd down plays.

It's fact that they are excuses.

Alex Smith failed to convert 1 meaningful 3rd down.

[OldSchool]

Megatron doesn't make Matthew Stafford look good?

The Saints aren't primarily dominant in a dome?

Tom Brady doesn't look better with a healthy Gronkowski?

Matt Ryan and the Falcons didn't struggle without Julio Jones?

Joe Flacco still wins the Superbowl without Anquan Boldin?

Come on, you're smarter than that. At least I hope that you are.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Megatron doesn't make Matthew Stafford look good?

The Saints aren't primarily dominant in a dome?

Tom Brady doesn't look better with a healthy Gronkowski?

Matt Ryan and the Falcons didn't struggle without Julio Jones?

Joe Flacco still wins the Superbowl without Anquan Boldin?

Come on, you're smarter than that. At least I hope that you are.

What the hell does any of this have to do with weather?

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by milkman

Eli Manning overcame those "facts" to convert 2 huge 3rd down plays.

It's fact that they are excuses.

Alex Smith failed to convert 1 meaningful 3rd down.

Eli Manning had Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, and Mario Manningham to work with.

Smith essentially had Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree with no one else. Davis was doubled and sometimes tripled the rest of the game after his 2 TDs and Crabtree was still a very average WR couldn't shake one guy, Corey Webster, for the entire game. You can't throw for 1st downs if there is no one to throw to.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Eli Manning had Hakeem Nicks, Victor Cruz, and Mario Manningham to work with.

Smith essentially had Vernon Davis and Michael Crabtree with no one else. Davis was doubled and sometimes tripled the rest of the game after his 2 TDs and Crabtree was still a very average WR couldn't shake one guy, Corey Webster, for the entire game. You can't throw for 1st downs if there is no one to throw to.

There is no excuse for going 0fer.

None.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by milkman

What the hell does any of this have to do with weather?

I didn't just point out the weather, I pointed out the lack of weapons as well. Smith had virtually no options beyond Vernon Davis in that game. You know you're in trouble when your #2 and #3 WRs are practice squad level guys (Kyle Williams, Brett Swain, and Chad Hall.)

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by milkman

There is no excuse for going 0fer.

None.

He scored 17 points with next to nothing around him, against a defense that held Aaron Rodgers to just 20 despite him having his full stable of WRs with him.

You're not going to do well against a defense that pretty much shut down:

Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Donald Driver, Randall Cobb, Jermichael Finley, and James Jones with Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball.

When the only receiving weapons you have are:

Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Kyle Williams, Brett Swain, and Chad Hall.

Compounding that issue was the weather during that game. Neither of the offenses were executing well because of it.

Unless you actually believe otherwise?

[milkman]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

He scored 17 points with next to nothing around him, against a defense that held Aaron Rodgers to just 20 despite him having his full stable of WRs with him.

You're not going to do well against a defense that pretty much shut down:

Greg Jennings, Jordy Nelson, Donald Driver, Randall Cobb, Jermichael Finley, and James Jones with Aaron Rodgers throwing the ball.

When the only receiving weapons you have are:

Vernon Davis, Michael Crabtree, Kyle Williams, Brett Swain, and Chad Hall.

Compounding that issue was the weather during that game. Neither of the offenses were executing well because of it.

Unless you actually believe otherwise?

I believe there is no excuse for going 0fer.

None.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by milkman

Eli Manning overcame those "facts" to convert 2 huge 3rd down plays.

It's fact that they are excuses.

Alex Smith failed to convert 1 meaningful 3rd down.

I get what you are saying and I get what the Smith fans are saying..All Smith had to do was throw or run for 1 more 1st down and the game is sealed..He is the QB..It's his responsibility to make sure they gain those downs and move the ball

On the other side using that argument or one similar to it all the defense had to do was stop 1 of Mannings 3rd down conversions to stop their drive..All the punt returner had to do was catch the ball

So either way you cut it if you hate Smith or like him all you have to do is to turn it around one way or the other..at the end of the day it's a team game and both the offense and defense have to hold up their end

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Well, good thing Smith is a 1st rd QB then, eh? AND is already been through the awful progression of shit personnel and coaching.. So he is now all the better for it.



Would just give all the people that want to hate him but were starting to like him now go back to their natural position of hating him. The world can go back to its perfect balance.



Your and idiot... for multiple reasons. (1) bringing this game back up yet again as if one game just defines a player. (2) Alex had terrible receivers to throw to, and even Crabtree seemed embarrassed that he couldn't get open when keyed upon. Smith threw two TDs and SF was on their way to winning, had Kyle W not shit all over himself. Eli and all his weapons couldn't do much either. (3) you just fukking suck dick.. as a person and supposed fan. DIAF


I don't want to see Smith bend KC over for 18 mil per year... and I still don't think he will or wants to. If KC can lock him up with 15 mil per and pretty well guaranteed he's their starter for the next 2 seasons? Maybe add some hard to reach incentives to that 15? then great...

I always laugh at he idiots who use Eli manning and the giants offensive struggles in a game as an excuse for smiths struggles in the same game.


They have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
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[OldSchool]

Oh yeah, and the same Giants defense held Tom Brady to just 21 points in the Superbowl.

Brady's stats: 27/41, 276 yards, 2 TDs, 1 INT.

FTR, Brady's weapons were:

Rob Gronkowski, Aaron Hernandez, Wes Welker, Deion Branch, and Chad Ochocinco.

Even Brady's #5 target was a better player than Smith's #2 WR. Brady, a HOF QB playing in perfect conditions, couldn't do enough against that Giants defense to win the game despite the fact that he was playing with 3 of the most dominant skills players at their positions in the league.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

I always laugh at he idiots who use Eli manning and the giants offensive struggles in a game as an excuse for smiths struggles in the same game.


They have absolutely nothing to do with each other.
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They do when it comes to playing conditions (weather).