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Old 06-04-2014, 01:59 PM  
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Colin Kaepernick gets over $100 million new deal

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Old 06-04-2014, 11:17 PM   #181
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Here's a breakdown that was done: http://ninercaphell.com/2014/06/05/e...ofootballtalk/

Salary
2014 3.7m
2015 17.2
2016 18.7
2017 21.3
2018 21.8
2019 21.2
2020 23.4

Signing bonus of 12 million applies to 2014 and is prorated 5 years. His base for 2014 is 645k.
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Old 06-04-2014, 11:19 PM   #182
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Kaepernick is a big bag of mystery

You can name QBs who took a bit of time to excell. Drew Brees, Ben Roethlisberger are 2.

You can name QBs who took a bit of time to be excrement. Mark Sanchez, Josh Freeman are 2.

I don't see Kapernick as either. I'd bet on a Donovan McNabb type.


He actually has 29 starts in the NFL now. 23 + 6 playoff.

And in college he was asked to throw as well. He had 200 more throws in his college career than Andrew Luck.

He wasn't Michael Vick who played 2 years and threw 16 times a game.

And as a QB who was 26, in the NFL for 3 years, same HC, same OC, mostly the same teammates, 26 starts...

His 27th 28th 29th games played stink, stank, stunk as far as QBing goes.

He needs to worry about getting to Alex Smith level of competence before worrying about being great and living up to the contract.

Because most of being great QB is a foundation of game manager + a handful of great plays a game where you flat out beat a defense with your mind and or arm/legs.
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Old 06-05-2014, 12:15 AM   #183
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Colin Kaepernick gets over $100 million new deal

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He's so classy. He's the only QB I've seen throw an INT, then get trucked by the same guy, THEN get up and talk shit to guy's face on national television

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Old 06-05-2014, 12:53 AM   #184
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Colin Kaepernick deal, trumpeted as being worth “up to” $126 million with $61 million guaranteed contains plenty of fluff, a league source with knowledge of the deal sent the details to PFT.

And there’s plenty of fluff.

Technically, the deal has $61 million guaranteed. But only $13.073 million is guaranteed at signing. It comes in the form of a $12.328 million signing bonus, a base salary of $645,000, and a workout bonus of $100,000.

For 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and part of 2018, the base salaries are guaranteed only for injury. On April 1 of each year, the guarantees convert from injury only to fully guaranteed. That gives the 49ers the ability to decide, in any given year, to move on from Kaepernick. And with the deadline for the conversion of the guarantee coming on April 1, the 49ers can squat on his rights until several weeks after the start of free agency, making it harder for him to get paid elsewhere.

The base salary for 2015 is $12.4 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2015.

For 2016, the base salary is $13.9 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2016.

For 2017, the base salary is $16.5 million, guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2017.

For 2018, the base salary is $17 million, $5.2 million of which is guaranteed for injury only until April 1, 2018.

The non-guaranteed base salary for 2019 is $18.8 million, and the non-guaranteed base salary for 2020 is $21 million.
Kaepernick is betting on himself to win the super bowl so as to not trigger the de-escalator. What more can you ask from a QB?

He wins it all this year, you are on the hook to pay him. If not, then he leaves millions on the table. If he wins it all next year, he has a lower base going forward, but you pay him going forward.

If he fails to win a super bowl or become an All Pro, he leaves multiple tens of millions on the table.

Kaepernick is betting on himself.

That is one very confident young man. I am betting with him.
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Old 06-05-2014, 04:48 AM   #185
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Kaepernick is betting on himself to win the super bowl so as to not trigger the de-escalator. What more can you ask from a QB?

He wins it all this year, you are on the hook to pay him. If not, then he leaves millions on the table. If he wins it all next year, he has a lower base going forward, but you pay him going forward.

If he fails to win a super bowl or become an All Pro, he leaves multiple tens of millions on the table.

Kaepernick is betting on himself.

That is one very confident young man. I am betting with him.
Kaepernick will never be an All-Pro QB, lol. He's far more likely to make it as a RB than as a QB. Too many guys who are actually good at playing QB out there.
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Old 06-05-2014, 04:54 AM   #186
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:31 AM   #187
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You need only look at his stats in the playoffs last year versus the regular season to figure him out. He can run around and chuck it up to Vernon Davis when playing the Rams or the Cardinals but come playoff time when good defenses come around that can contain him, he can't win as a passer.

For that matter, in his two regular season games against Seattle - the only real good defense he played in the regular season last year - he looked like garbage both times.

The 49ers have been talented enough on both sides of the ball to win games with Krapernick at QB over the past couple of years, but that won't always be true. This is the kind of contract that sinks a team.
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:54 AM   #188
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You need only look at his stats in the playoffs last year versus the regular season to figure him out. He can run around and chuck it up to Vernon Davis when playing the Rams or the Cardinals but come playoff time when good defenses come around that can contain him, he can't win as a passer.

For that matter, in his two regular season games against Seattle - the only real good defense he played in the regular season last year - he looked like garbage both times.

The 49ers have been talented enough on both sides of the ball to win games with Krapernick at QB over the past couple of years, but that won't always be true. This is the kind of contract that sinks a team.
The 49ers aren't going to be able to beat the Seahawks with Kaepernick as their starting QB. He's just too limited in what he does and is all but guaranteed to make dumb mistakes that'll cost a team.
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Old 06-05-2014, 06:59 AM   #189
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Kaepernick will never be an All-Pro QB, lol. He's far more likely to make it as a RB than as a QB. Too many guys who are actually good at playing QB out there.
Did you even watch him play in the SB?...
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:05 AM   #190
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Did you even watch him play in the SB?...
Yeah, he was the reason why they were behind by so much. Couldn't do a single thing on offense before the black-out happened. Without that blackout, that game is a blow out. And, he choked miserably again on the final play of the game when he overthrew Crabtree on yet another fade attempt, lol. The 49ers got back into the game was because of a turn over within the 30 yard line of the Raven's side of the field and also a kick return to the Ravens 20.

Kaepernick's "touch passes" are some of the most inconsistent that I've seen among starting QBs.

His final 3 passes of that game:

Incomplete to Crabtree.
Incomplete to Crabtree.
Incomplete to Crabtree.

Great quarterbacking, lol.

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Old 06-05-2014, 07:07 AM   #191
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Yeah, he was the reason why they were behind by so much. Couldn't do a single thing on offense before the black-out happened.
And apparently the defense couldn't stop $3it either.

I mean, since it was the defense that allowed all those pts...
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You need only look at his stats in the playoffs last year versus the regular season to figure him out. He can run around and chuck it up to Vernon Davis when playing the Rams or the Cardinals but come playoff time when good defenses come around that can contain him, he can't win as a passer.

For that matter, in his two regular season games against Seattle - the only real good defense he played in the regular season last year - he looked like garbage both times.

The 49ers have been talented enough on both sides of the ball to win games with Krapernick at QB over the past couple of years, but that won't always be true. This is the kind of contract that sinks a team.
The rams and cardinals have great defenses
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Old 06-05-2014, 07:48 AM   #193
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People still don't understand just how friendly this contract is.
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The rams and cardinals have great defenses
St. Louis was near the bottom in most pass defense categories. Arizona is better, but it's deceiving because they are really only strong against the run.
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Kaep got paid way too much... and NOW hopefully the Chiefs can say that "we aren't paying you the same as a 26 year old who has been to 2 consecutive NFC Championship games"
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