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Old 05-30-2012, 09:03 AM  
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Got the axe at work today. Can't really say I am disappointed to be honest. Managment at our firm was pretty chicken shit, spineless and ungrateful. I put in on average 60-65 hours a week including weekends. Few months ago I had a pow-wow with my boss and her boss because they had concerns about my being happy there. I asked why generated this concerns and their answer flat out was "we aren't going to discuss specifics". Ok, then WTF did you bring it up?

Then a few months later I get told my "tone" in my e-mails to an outsourcing company we were using was bad. I asked not once but twice what I said, what they would have liked me to have said, etc. No answer.

Then a few weeks ago when I was working my ass off night, days and weekends I get told that my boss's boss had concerns about my productivity but that I shouldn't ring my hands over it.


So today I get told I was being let go because of performance issues. Not one documented incident of said issues exists of course.

Normally I would feel like shit for getting fired but in this case when you are working that hard for someone and all they can do is insist on more then do you dirty like that I am not so sure this isn't really a blessing in disguise.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:36 PM   #61
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That's the way it's done there. They push a ton of extra hours on the premise of, "it's just a busy time. after this project's over, everything will calm down".

It doesn't really ever calm down. The real kicker is that the knock on the former CIO was that he wanted things out too fast. The new CIO said things would change. They didn't change.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:43 PM   #62
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:43 PM   #63
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Same thing happened years ago at my last job. 2 months before I was fired I had a great job performance review with average and above average rankings in all fields. Then I get canned. I ask why? No answer. Thanks to the "right to work" in KS, I had no way to contest it.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:45 PM   #64
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:51 PM   #65
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Nope. I would out the company as I haven't worked there in a couple of years, but I'll let Pete share that info if he pleases.
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Old 05-30-2012, 01:52 PM   #66
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Wow, I never knew for sure if we worked for the same company but now I think you did. This sounds very familiar.

I am soooo anxious to retire. 7 days a week, 60+ hours gets old after a few years.

Good luck dude. The next place will be a dream after the last one.
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Old 05-30-2012, 02:02 PM   #67
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Nope. I would out the company as I haven't worked there in a couple of years, but I'll let Pete share that info if he pleases.
Not a big deal, just guessing. I have heard that they work the hell out of people.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:13 PM   #68
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No but just as bad from what I hear
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:25 PM   #69
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Not a big deal, just guessing. I have heard that they work the hell out of people.
It's a law firm called Lathrop & Gage. Actually the company in and of itself is a great, great company. They really take good care of their employees, generally speaking. The IT department there on the other hand is a hell. It's constant 50-70 hour weeks. Understaffed and overworked and I don't mean the typical situation. I mean like they are at least 3-4 people light, plan projects like they have an extra 5 people sitting around doing nothing and not very good leadership when it comes to managing an IT department.

The Help Desk is ordered to escalate tickets if they cannot quickly fix anything and they are supposed to be Tier 1 & 2 support. The guys there are pretty good but the manager wants to be able to point fingers elsewhere so she orders them to escalate quickly. The staff generally is a good group of people. Some of them are real good and would enjoy working with them again.

Bottom line is the IT leadership lacks patience and understanding when it comes to technology. They roll out technology that is not necessarily needed too fast then spend a shitload of time trying to stablize while continuing to repeat the process. They try to compensate corner cutting by working the staff extremely hard and long hours.

My biggest complaint is there is never any consultation or input from staff when it comes to projects. 2 or 3 people get together, dream up this idea of what they want, pull want-dates out of their ass then tell the staff what has to be done and when. That leads to consistent projects that should take 6 months to a year being ordered to be done in 1-2 months. This is with multiple projects being ran simultaneously while also having to provide Tier 3 support to the users.

Basically we were told in December that we had to have a Windows 7 image built and rolled out by the end of the year. Nothing was even locked down on what was to go on the desktop until a week or two ago. Vaccuum managment is what I call that. No considerations for what was really going to have to be done, no consideration for other projects and responsibilities and no consideration for input from staff.
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you should be able to get unemployment easily if they never documented anything.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:29 PM   #71
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you should be able to get unemployment easily if they never documented anything.
HR told me they are not going to contest unemployment so I am hoping there are no issues with that.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:38 PM   #72
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HR told me they are not going to contest unemployment so I am hoping there are no issues with that.
I hope you got that in writing. I'm just considering the source.
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Old 05-30-2012, 03:41 PM   #73
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That ain't no shit. I saw more people get away with more bullshit and be looked upon like they walk on water.

In my case I was working on a big project that was due this week. Another project that I had never been involved with outside of someone needing something done "now" was slipping and really when you get down to it didn't have to go. So I worked all night Thursday, all day Friday, all night Friday night, all day yesterday and until 10:00 last night to get that all ready to go. Was in the office at 6:30 this morning and then got the axe.

The problem with the managment there is they plan everything piss poor and in a vaccuum. They set unreasonable timelines totally ignorant of the other projects they are working then want 1-2 people to just "make it happen". If you're working 50 hours a week they'd say work 55. If you were working 60 hours a week they'd say work 65.

You can only do that to someone so much. This was a regular expectation week in and week out. Weekends? WTF are those? You got a family? Big deal.

I'd come in the office between 6:30-7:00, most days eat my lunch at my desk, leave at 4:00-4:30, come home and get right back on the computer for another couple hours.

Meanwhile I sit there and watch one of the managers say how she has a life and can't work a bunch of OT. Ironically she was the one who barked out orders at everyone else and told them to work OT.

Leading by example was not one of the virtues in this department.
A lot of that sounds really familiar to my work situation. It's a blessing dude.
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