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Old 03-31-2016, 08:58 PM  
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Tesla Model 3 reveal.

Tesla is revealing their $35,000 Model 3 tonight in California.

Anyone reserving one?

Check out the live reveal here https://model3.tesla.com/ . Starts at 8:30PT
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:12 AM   #76
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Teslas. In general. I don't believe it one way or another. People shit on stuff that is really nice. And people like to pimp shit that sucks.
http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/27/tesla...er-tested.html
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:15 AM   #77
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If they're smart, they either partner with gas stations to install chargers, or begin setting up electric car charging stations all around the country.

Best to get it started now, before it all goes that way anyways.
Great points.

So what will this do to your electric bill-charging a car all the time? I can't even run a freaking space heater without my bill going up $10.00 a day.

What will be the point of saving gas if it is adding $500.00 a month to your electric bill? Just curious, not planning on putting down a deposit.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:16 AM   #78
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They were talking about it on the radio this morning. Said it would drive 215 miles without a charge.

So...say you want to take a little road trip with it-how do you charge the thing if you are away from home? And how long does it take to charge?
Well the story goes that they have enough supercharger stations around the country that you can pretty much always get to one and that each fill will take about 30 minutes (piss and coffee break?) and be free of charge.

Personally, I'm just not there yet. Then again, any road trip I go on would involve the F-150 anyway; I prefer the room and the high seating position for long trips.

I just don't think this is a particularly attractive vehicle especially when compared to the Model S.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:17 AM   #79
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They were talking about it on the radio this morning. Said it would drive 215 miles without a charge.

So...say you want to take a little road trip with it-how do you charge the thing if you are away from home? And how long does it take to charge?
If you live in certain areas of the country, it could definitely be a pain, but they've got a pretty good network in place. Here's the current map:



And here's the plan by the end of 2016:



And at least for the Model S and X, charging is free.

As for the time, it's roughly 30 minutes or so. It requires a different kind of mentality for the trip for sure - you have to be willing to get out and relax for a bit every few hours. If you're on the road constantly, I probably wouldn't recommend it, but if you spend 90% of your time just driving around town, it wouldn't be so bad for a trip here and there.

And the fact that you could drive from LA to NYC for free is certainly appealing.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:20 AM   #80
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Great points.

So what will this do to your electric bill-charging a car all the time? I can't even run a freaking space heater without my bill going up $10.00 a day.

What will be the point of saving gas if it is adding $500.00 a month to your electric bill? Just curious, not planning on putting down a deposit.
Old article, but this suggests the cost is around $1.12 per gallon-equivalent to give you a (very) rough idea.

http://energy.gov/articles/egallon-h...ve-electricity
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:21 AM   #81
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I think your opinion would change if you had. Granted, I'm referring to a turbocharged Model S rather than a $35k Model 3, but I've never had this type of reaction in any other car:

Let's not forget that he's goosing a $110K car right there.

The immediate torque is a thing to behold, don't get me wrong. But part of that experience is still the visceral thrill that comes from the roar of an engine. You give me $100K to spend on a car and a I can find one that'll put your ass in the back-seat just the same as the Model S and does it while also scaring woodland creatures in the adjacent counties.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:24 AM   #82
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Let's not forget that he's goosing a $110K car right there.

The immediate torque is a thing to behold, don't get me wrong. But part of that experience is still the visceral thrill that comes from the roar of an engine. You give me $100K to spend on a car and a I can find one that'll put your ass in the back-seat just the same as the Model S and does it while also scaring woodland creatures in the adjacent counties.
I think this means you're old.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:30 AM   #83
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I think this means you're old.
Get'n there.

But still younger than the '67 in my garage that will shake pictures off the walls. I've refused to put EFI on it because you just can't get that cranky-ass loping idle that sounds like you put a bear in a washing machine from a fuel injected car.

But my daily is a turbo so I'm not completely archaic. And like I said, that CLS550 w/ the biturbo is just goddamn orgasmic. I've heard one of those in full throat and you just cannot beat that exhaust note.

Screw your goofy space car that sounds like my daughter's Power Wheel - I want that roar.
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Get'n there.

But still younger than the '67 in my garage that will shake pictures off the walls. I've refused to put EFI on it because you just can't get that cranky-ass loping idle that sounds like you put a bear in a washing machine from a fuel injected car.

But my daily is a turbo so I'm not completely archaic. And like I said, that CLS550 w/ the biturbo is just goddamn orgasmic. I've heard one of those in full throat and you just cannot beat that exhaust note.

Screw your goofy space car that sounds like my daughter's Power Wheel - I want that roar.
Yeah, I hear you. My point is really just that your preferences are driven by a time when those kinds of cars were common, and more noise was universally understood to indicate more power. I'm kind of in the middle (age 34) and had some of that growing up, but not a lot. My nieces who are in college right now just roll their eyes at the idea.

The transition to EVs won't happen overnight, but as time goes on I suspect that roaring engines will start to feel very antiquated.

Of course, that all assumes that we're still driving our own cars 10 years from now, which isn't necessarily a given either.
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The front end will have to grow on me, but it looks a lot like my fiances Volvo.


(Model 3)

Very nice car. Makes Chevy's "Tesla Killer" Bolt(below) look like a cavalier type economy class vehicle.


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Chevrolet just needs to give up. Everything they make is an uglier, inferior ripoff of something else that's on the market.
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Also 34; my dad drove an Accord and my mom a Chevy Celebrity; 2 of the most boring POSs in the history of 80s manufacturing/design. I didn't really grow up around it at all.

Meanwhile, I've started my car around toddlers and even a 4 yr old's eyes light up when that thing comes to life.

Like I said, it just seems visceral to me, especially for guys. Sure, your nieces roll their eyes...they're nieces. They probably think fireworks and football are boring as well.
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If you live in certain areas of the country, it could definitely be a pain, but they've got a pretty good network in place. Here's the current map:



And here's the plan by the end of 2016:



And at least for the Model S and X, charging is free.

As for the time, it's roughly 30 minutes or so. It requires a different kind of mentality for the trip for sure - you have to be willing to get out and relax for a bit every few hours. If you're on the road constantly, I probably wouldn't recommend it, but if you spend 90% of your time just driving around town, it wouldn't be so bad for a trip here and there.

And the fact that you could drive from LA to NYC for free is certainly appealing.
Just don't drive through western Kansas or Eastern Colorado.
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Just don't drive through western Kansas or Eastern Colorado.
That's probably a pretty good life pro tip in general.
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Old article, but this suggests the cost is around $1.12 per gallon-equivalent to give you a (very) rough idea.

http://energy.gov/articles/egallon-h...ve-electricity
I really like the free charging station thing. 30 minutes is much faster than what I had imagined.
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