Chiefs Yahoo.com Draft Grades - Page 8

**BigMeatballDave** · 11:12 AM

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Denver Broncos
Picks: LB Von Miller, S Rahim Moore, OT Orlando Franklin, LB Nate Irving, S Quinton Carter, TE Julius Thomas, LB Mike Mohamed, TE Virgil Green, DL Jeremy Beal.
Grade: B
Analysis: A good rule of thumb in the NFL (and pretty much in just about any sport) is take the bigger guy first. The Broncos went against that theory by selecting Miller over Dareus. That said, Miller is the kind of disruptive, pass-rushing force who could be a perennial Pro Bowler. He is explosive and has a great personality, ingredients for becoming a great player and leader. The rest of the draft was very wise. In particular, getting Moore to rejuvenate an ancient secondary was critical (plus backing up that pick with Carter in the fourth round). Throw in the selections of Franklin and Irving and you have a draft that could easily feature four or five starters. That’s exactly what the Broncos had to get in this draft.

Kansas City Chiefs
Picks: WR Jonathan Baldwin, C Rodney Hudson, LB Justin Houston(notes), DE Allen Bailey(notes), CB Jalil Brown, QB Ricky Stanzi, LB Gabe Miller, DT Jerrell Powe, FB Shane Bannon.
Grade: B-
Analysis: The Chiefs moved back six spots in the first round and still got an offensive weapon who may start right away in Baldwin. The 6-foot-5 Baldwin is a beast and gives the team a great complement to Dwayne Bowe. However, like Bowe, Baldwin can be a bit of a head case. For instance, he had the gall to complain that the Pitt coaching staff was not throwing to him very much because they wanted to hurt his draft stock. Second-rounder Hudson should start this year or next depending on what happens with Casey Wiegmann. Third-round picks OLB Justin Houston and DE Allen Bailey could easily become starters as rookies. Neither figures to ever be great, but both should be solid starters.

Oakland Raiders
Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski, CB Demarcus Van Dyke , OL Joseph Barksdale, CB Chimdi Chekwa, RB Taiwan Jones, WR Denarius Moore, TE Richard Gordon, WR David Ausberry .
Grade: B+
Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent.

San Diego Chargers
Picks: DT Corey Liuget, CB Marcus Gilchrist, LB Jonas Mouton, WR Vincent Brown, CB Shareece Wright, RB Jordan Todman, OL Steven Schilling, LB Andrew Gachkar.
Grade: B
Analysis: As you can tell, this draft screams defense as four of the top five picks (all in the first three rounds) were on that side of the ball. That started with Liuget at No. 18 overall. Liuget may not be the most dynamic lineman out there, but he’s solid across the board and could play any spot in San Diego’s three-man front. From there, the selection of Gilchrist (who can also line up at cornerback) and Wright restore some much-needed depth in the secondary. Mouton has more than a few detractors, many who say he’s just not that tough, but he’s a very good athlete who is learning to play in the front seven.

NO WAY is the Chiefs draft the least of this division.

**Saul Good** · 05-03-2011, 08:31 PM

By my count, he would be the fourth fastest starter on the KC defense.

**SAUTO** · 05-03-2011, 08:31 PM

Bleacher re port. Fox sports, nfl.com, video, and texas a and m all say 4.53.

J ust google von miller nfl combine and see.
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**RealSNR** · 05-03-2011, 08:32 PM

Where's vailpass to tell us Knowmo is in our minds?

This isn't trolling. This is just pure stupidity.

milkman · 05-03-2011, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Bleacher re port. Fox sports, nfl.com, video, and texas a and m all say 4.53.

J ust google von miller nfl combine and see.
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Can you repost this when you're sober?

Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

A good 40 time doesn't mean shit. He still wouldn't have the speed to contain Jamaal Charles without any interior help from your awful and shitty defensive line.

Not to mention he's got a long ways to go if he wants to learn how to play linebacker in the 4-3. He needs to develop a new skill set that he doesn't quite have yet.

Man it's just football. He has the physical tools to do whatever it is they ask him to do. He has shown he has excellent instincts, can shed blocks very well, and has a freakish ability to rush the passer. He can play OLB in a 4-3 just as easily as he could in a 3-4.

Ebolapox · 05-03-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

Man it's just football. He has the physical tools to do whatever it is they ask him to do. He has shown he has excellent instincts, can shed blocks very well, and has a freakish ability to rush the passer. He can play OLB in a 4-3 just as easily as he could in a 3-4.

so, you never saw any a&m games? you don't know how he'll make the transition? you apparently don't know shit. you're a ****ing idiot.

**Saul Good** · 05-03-2011, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good

By my count, he would be the fourth fastest starter on the KC defense.

Of course, if Jalil Brown is in, Miller would be the fifth fastest. Basically, he would be one of the slower players on our defense besides Linemen.

Quesadilla Joe · 05-03-2011, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by H5N1

so, you never saw any a&m games? you don't know how he'll make the transition? you apparently don't know shit. you're a ****ing idiot.

Is name calling necessary? I have been nothing but courteous to you. And yes I have watched him play in college and I have watched every bit of video I can find and read every article out there on Von Miller since Denver drafted him.

It's safe to say I know more about this particular player than you do, sir.

**Saul Good** · 05-03-2011, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

Is name calling necessary? I have been nothing but courteous to you. And yes I have watched him play in college and I have watched every bit of video I can find and read every article out there on Von Miller since Denver drafted him.

It's safe to say I know more about this particular player than you do, sir.

It's safe to say that you know more than there is to know about him.

milkman · 05-03-2011, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

Is name calling necessary? I have been nothing but courteous to you. And yes I have watched him play in college and I have watched every bit of video I can find and read every article out there on Von Miller since Denver drafted him.

It's safe to say I know more about this particular player than you do, sir.

To be fair, stupidity like yours makes it difficult to refrain from namecalling.

Just Passin' By · 05-03-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

Is name calling necessary? I have been nothing but courteous to you. And yes I have watched him play in college and I have watched every bit of video I can find and read every article out there on Von Miller since Denver drafted him.

It's safe to say I know more about this particular player than you do, sir.

I'm stunned that your brain is even smart enough to remind your body to breathe.

**SAUTO** · 05-03-2011, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Can you repost this when you're sober?

Been sober for six weeks. Swype is ****ing up on my phone if I don't shut it off every day.
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**RealSNR** · 05-03-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by KnowMo

Man it's just football. He has the physical tools to do whatever it is they ask him to do. He has shown he has excellent instincts, can shed blocks very well, and has a freakish ability to rush the passer. He can play OLB in a 4-3 just as easily as he could in a 3-4.

If it's just football, then why isn't Brock Lesnar in the NFL? How about Buffalo's 400 lb nose tackle?

Scouting reports that say things doesn't always mean these players will translate to the NFL. Ask Oakland who selected the safe pick of Robert Gallery.

Just curious, but what do you expect Jamaal Charles to average in terms of yards per game this year against the Broncos? Assume he's healthy and has no hangups.

If you guess anything under 100 yards you ought to be ashamed for being such a stupid homer.

Ebolapox · 05-03-2011, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KnowMo

Is name calling necessary? I have been nothing but courteous to you. And yes I have watched him play in college and I have watched every bit of video I can find and read every article out there on Von Miller since Denver drafted him.

It's safe to say I know more about this particular player than you do, sir.

but did you see whole games, or just highlights? did you quit at halftime? you're a ****ing loser, quitter, worthless piece of shit. yeah. I'm going there. ****, you know why everybody thinks you're a mult? because it's hard to believe that ANYBODY is this ****ing reeruned.

you know so much about von miller that you rely on tards from twitter for bullshit news and comparisons. yeah. you're very intelligent.

**Saul Good** · 05-03-2011, 09:14 PM

I didn't realize just how much speed we have on defense until knowmo posted his garbage.

05-03-2011, 11:06 AM
BigMeatballDave GBM 8-12-15 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Dayton, Oh. Casino cash: $10052154	Yahoo.com Draft Grades http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slu..._grades_050111 Bite me, if repost Denver Broncos Picks: LB Von Miller, S Rahim Moore, OT Orlando Franklin, LB Nate Irving, S Quinton Carter, TE Julius Thomas, LB Mike Mohamed, TE Virgil Green, DL Jeremy Beal. Grade: B Analysis: A good rule of thumb in the NFL (and pretty much in just about any sport) is take the bigger guy first. The Broncos went against that theory by selecting Miller over Dareus. That said, Miller is the kind of disruptive, pass-rushing force who could be a perennial Pro Bowler. He is explosive and has a great personality, ingredients for becoming a great player and leader. The rest of the draft was very wise. In particular, getting Moore to rejuvenate an ancient secondary was critical (plus backing up that pick with Carter in the fourth round). Throw in the selections of Franklin and Irving and you have a draft that could easily feature four or five starters. That’s exactly what the Broncos had to get in this draft. Kansas City Chiefs Picks: WR Jonathan Baldwin, C Rodney Hudson, LB Justin Houston(notes), DE Allen Bailey(notes), CB Jalil Brown, QB Ricky Stanzi, LB Gabe Miller, DT Jerrell Powe, FB Shane Bannon. Grade: B- Analysis: The Chiefs moved back six spots in the first round and still got an offensive weapon who may start right away in Baldwin. The 6-foot-5 Baldwin is a beast and gives the team a great complement to Dwayne Bowe. However, like Bowe, Baldwin can be a bit of a head case. For instance, he had the gall to complain that the Pitt coaching staff was not throwing to him very much because they wanted to hurt his draft stock. Second-rounder Hudson should start this year or next depending on what happens with Casey Wiegmann. Third-round picks OLB Justin Houston and DE Allen Bailey could easily become starters as rookies. Neither figures to ever be great, but both should be solid starters. Oakland Raiders Picks: C Stefen Wisniewski, CB Demarcus Van Dyke , OL Joseph Barksdale, CB Chimdi Chekwa, RB Taiwan Jones, WR Denarius Moore, TE Richard Gordon, WR David Ausberry . Grade: B+ Analysis: The Raiders get credit for getting DL Richard Seymour two seasons ago with the first-round pick they gave up from this year. Seymour has turned out to be a fine acquisition, even if he’s getting long in the tooth. Starting there, this draft simply reeks of Raiderdom, starting with the selection of Wisniewski in the second round. The latest Wiz will not only play for his uncle, former Raider great Steve Wisniewski, but will probably start from Day 1 because starter Samson Satele just wasn’t that good the past two years. From there, the Raiders basically drafted a 4 x 100 relay team with Van Dyke, Chekwa, Jones and Moore. The Raiders are nothing if not consistent. San Diego Chargers Picks: DT Corey Liuget, CB Marcus Gilchrist, LB Jonas Mouton, WR Vincent Brown, CB Shareece Wright, RB Jordan Todman, OL Steven Schilling, LB Andrew Gachkar. Grade: B Analysis: As you can tell, this draft screams defense as four of the top five picks (all in the first three rounds) were on that side of the ball. That started with Liuget at No. 18 overall. Liuget may not be the most dynamic lineman out there, but he’s solid across the board and could play any spot in San Diego’s three-man front. From there, the selection of Gilchrist (who can also line up at cornerback) and Wright restore some much-needed depth in the secondary. Mouton has more than a few detractors, many who say he’s just not that tough, but he’s a very good athlete who is learning to play in the front seven. NO WAY is the Chiefs draft the least of this division. Last edited by BigMeatballDave; 05-03-2011 at 11:12 AM..
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Saul Good Quit your bullshit Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bored of winning Casino cash: $10052799	I didn't realize just how much speed we have on defense until knowmo posted his garbage. __________________ Today is not a good day to be a pussy.
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