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Old 04-14-2017, 07:49 PM  
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****Official 2017 NBA Playoffs Thread****
The real season begins.

Round 1:

EAST:

#8 Bulls @ #1 Celtics
#7 Pacers @ #2 Cavs
#6 Bucks @ #3 Raptors
#5 Hawks @ #4 Wizards

WEST:
#8 Blazers @ #1 Warriors
#7 Grizzlies @ #2 Spurs
#6 Thunder @ #3 Rockets
#5 Jazz @ #4 Clippers
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Old 05-15-2017, 05:56 AM   #556
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The one thing San Antonio had going for them is they had the best player in the series. Now, that's no longer the case. Golden State would almost certainly have won, but this is now two out of the last three years that their path has been cleared in large part due to injury.
The Cavs have had it so hard playing the Pacers and Raptors.
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Old 05-15-2017, 08:23 AM   #557
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The one thing San Antonio had going for them is they had the best player in the series. Now, that's no longer the case. Golden State would almost certainly have won, but this is now two out of the last three years that their path has been cleared in large part due to injury.
Durant is a better player than kawhi. Defensively nit equal, but offensively far superior
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Old 05-15-2017, 11:28 AM   #558
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Green is one of the top 15 best NBA players currently easy
Top 10 probably as well. Klay is the only one who's really up for any debate there.

Draymond is the only thing that holds the Warriors' defense together. Without him, they'd just be a bunch of soft jump shooting scorers.
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Old 05-15-2017, 12:15 PM   #559
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Durant is a better player than kawhi. Defensively nit equal, but offensively far superior
No way is Durant equal to Kawhi on defense. Kawhi won the DPOY two-years in a row, Durant 0. Plus I don't think Durant has made the All-Defensive first or second team once. Kawhi has done it three times (2x All-=Defense First Team, 1x All-Defense Second Team).

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Top 10 probably as well. Klay is the only one who's really up for any debate there.

Draymond is the only thing that holds the Warriors' defense together. Without him, they'd just be a bunch of soft jump shooting scorers.
I don't know. I can think of 10-players I'd take over Draymond. In no particular order.

1 - LeBron
2- Kawhi
3- Curry
4- Durant
5- Westbrook
6- Harden
7- Isiah Thomas
8- Lillard
9-John Wall
10 -Kyrie

But Dray is probably top 15 and definitely a very good player.
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Old 05-15-2017, 01:16 PM   #560
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Green is one of the top 15 best NBA players currently easy

When you talk about top 10-15 you're talking about guys you can build a franchise around.

No one is looking to build around Green
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:42 PM   #561
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When you talk about top 10-15 you're talking about guys you can build a franchise around.

No one is looking to build around Green
a) top 15 current may not always be the top 15 franchise builders

Ben Simmons is not close to a top anything yet but if I am a GM I might consider taking him in the top 15 to build a franchise around.


B) you cannot name 16 players better than Green in the NBA currently

When you start getting to the Damien Lillards and Demarcus Cousins just stop cause Green is better
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Old 05-15-2017, 02:44 PM   #562
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a) top 15 current may not always be the top 15 franchise builders

Ben Simmons is not close to a top anything yet but if I am a GM I might consider taking him in the top 15 to build a franchise around.


B) you cannot name 16 players better than Green in the NBA currently

When you start getting to the Damien Lillards and Demarcus Cousins just stop cause Green is better
Green is better than cousins???
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Demarcus Cousins career loser and stat compiler on bad teams is better than first team defense, NBA champion Draymond Green?

This place just loves players that are strictly points and rebounds
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a) top 15 current may not always be the top 15 franchise builders

Ben Simmons is not close to a top anything yet but if I am a GM I might consider taking him in the top 15 to build a franchise around.


B) you cannot name 16 players better than Green in the NBA currently

When you start getting to the Damien Lillards and Demarcus Cousins just stop cause Green is better

The best players are players you can build around. No one is going to build around a 12 ppg/7rpg player.

He also struggles to guard good, big post up players and sometimes gets hammered on the offensive glass due to his size.

As Van Gundy put it the other day, 'Aldridge poses a matchup problem for GS; Durant is too small and Green is too short'
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Old 05-15-2017, 03:53 PM   #567
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Funny. No complaining about David Lee just sitting there like a slug and having Kawhi come down on his foot.
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Demarcus Cousins career loser and stat compiler on bad teams is better than first team defense, NBA champion Draymond Green?

This place just loves players that are strictly points and rebounds
So if Green was on the Sacramento kings...one of the worst 3 organizations in the league, they'd be a winning team?
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Demarcus Cousins career loser and stat compiler on bad teams is better than first team defense, NBA champion Draymond Green?

This place just loves players that are strictly points and rebounds
The kings and warriors are comparable teams outside of those two players right?
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