Pat Kirwan on LJ and JA Contracts

afchiefs · 06-19-2007, 12:06 PM

Sorry if repost but life will go on

CHIEF CONCERNS
I spoke with Kansas City GM Carl Peterson last week about the issue of signing ability for running back Larry Johnson and defensive end Jared Allen. Peterson would obviously love to have both under long-term contracts, but I got the impression there will be an order to the contract negotiations. Johnson, the workhorse ball carrier, has been in attendance all spring and it would appear he will be first on the list. Peterson is comfortable that a deal could be worked out. Others with limited knowledge of the situation believe Johnson is only going to settle for a contract that is better than the one signed by LaDainian Tomlinson.

No one is suggesting Johnson is a better player, but he's close enough that a deal to make him the highest paid running back is possible. Something tells me the Chiefs will get a deal done and the salary cap space Kansas City received back when it traded Trent Green will be used to lock up the man who carried the ball 416 times last year. The franchise tag for running backs (average of the top five backs) is $7 million. Green was scheduled to make $7.2 million before leaving for Miami. So connect the dots from there.

As for Allen, the caution flag is up for now. But he should eventually be a Chief for a long time. As Peterson said, Allen is serving a four game suspension and one more issue he could be gone for a long time. The Chiefs organization believes Allen is doing all the right things to mend his ways, but the team is going to wait. Peterson did remind me that's he's from the 'Show Me' state.

Reerun_KC · 06-19-2007, 12:08 PM

afchiefs · 06-19-2007, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

This whole f##king offseason is boring. Bring on the beer and games.

Reerun_KC · 06-19-2007, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by afchiefs

This whole f##king offseason is boring. Bring on the beer and games.

Amen to that!

crazycoffey · 06-19-2007, 12:13 PM

Sounds good to me.....
Lock down LJ and see if Allen can "show us" he can stay sober when reaching for his car keys.

**Fire Me Boy!** · 06-19-2007, 12:26 PM

I like the idea of NOT giving LJ the contract, franchising his ass in 2008 and letting him walk when he's 30 and likely has 2 more seasons of nearly 400 carries each.

eazyb81 · 06-19-2007, 12:29 PM

Am I the only one that is uneasy about giving LJ a huge contract? I have a feeling we are going to regret it.

Hammock Parties · 06-19-2007, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Am I the only one that is uneasy about giving LJ a huge contract? I have a feeling we are going to regret it.

What's to be afraid of?

afchiefs · 06-19-2007, 12:38 PM

Theres talk of LJ holding out and not coming in till up to the 10 game. My question is if we fanchise him next year could he do that then.

ChiefsfaninPA · 06-19-2007, 01:00 PM

I am glad most of you clowns don't run an NFL organization. LJ and the Chiefs are going to come to a mutually agreeded upon figure. If they don't, next season or the season after that he will leave. He realizes how many carries he can potentially count on and will ask to be compensated accordinly. If it is not us, it WILL be another team. Personally, I like LJ and hope we are the team that signs him. I don't understand this "Lets give him a million carries and cut him when he is 30." What kind of stupid sh*t is this? You reward the players who perform for your franchise. At this point LJ has been performing his part for the team.

Logical · 06-19-2007, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by afchiefs

Theres talk of LJ holding out and not coming in till up to the 10 game. My question is if we fanchise him next year could he do that then.

I think he could, but why would he?

eazyb81 · 06-19-2007, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

What's to be afraid of?

Well, let's see:

1. We would be pouring money into a RB, a position that seems easily replaceable, and

2. LJ could easily get hurt and lose effectiveness, which would diminish his value and his contract could become an albatross.

afchiefs · 06-19-2007, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eazyb81

Well, let's see:

1. We would be pouring money into a RB, a position that seems easily replaceable, and

2. LJ could easily get hurt and lose effectiveness, which would diminish his value and his contract could become an albatross.

I agree with #2 and totally disagree with #1. If its so easy to replace the 2nd best RB in the league why was I forced to watch the crappy RB by commitee for years under MS.

**jAZ** · 06-19-2007, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GoChiefs

What's to be afraid of?

The potential Terrell Owens factor?

Hammock Parties · 06-19-2007, 02:44 PM

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The potential Terrell Owens factor?

This is an absurd post. Larry Johnson is a high-character individual who cares about his teammates. It has been proven on numerous occasions. He busted his ass in New York this offseason and continues to attend team workouts despite the fact that he does not have a new contract.

You should be ashamed of yourself. You might want to consider making a public apology.

06-19-2007, 12:06 PM	Topic Starter
afchiefs Starter Join Date: Jul 2002 Casino cash: $10004900	Pat Kirwan on LJ and JA Contracts Sorry if repost but life will go on CHIEF CONCERNS I spoke with Kansas City GM Carl Peterson last week about the issue of signing ability for running back Larry Johnson and defensive end Jared Allen. Peterson would obviously love to have both under long-term contracts, but I got the impression there will be an order to the contract negotiations. Johnson, the workhorse ball carrier, has been in attendance all spring and it would appear he will be first on the list. Peterson is comfortable that a deal could be worked out. Others with limited knowledge of the situation believe Johnson is only going to settle for a contract that is better than the one signed by LaDainian Tomlinson. No one is suggesting Johnson is a better player, but he's close enough that a deal to make him the highest paid running back is possible. Something tells me the Chiefs will get a deal done and the salary cap space Kansas City received back when it traded Trent Green will be used to lock up the man who carried the ball 416 times last year. The franchise tag for running backs (average of the top five backs) is $7 million. Green was scheduled to make $7.2 million before leaving for Miami. So connect the dots from there. As for Allen, the caution flag is up for now. But he should eventually be a Chief for a long time. As Peterson said, Allen is serving a four game suspension and one more issue he could be gone for a long time. The Chiefs organization believes Allen is doing all the right things to mend his ways, but the team is going to wait. Peterson did remind me that's he's from the 'Show Me' state.
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ChiefsfaninPA "F_ck Family Fun Night" Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: York, PA Casino cash: $10005025	I am glad most of you clowns don't run an NFL organization. LJ and the Chiefs are going to come to a mutually agreeded upon figure. If they don't, next season or the season after that he will leave. He realizes how many carries he can potentially count on and will ask to be compensated accordinly. If it is not us, it WILL be another team. Personally, I like LJ and hope we are the team that signs him. I don't understand this "Lets give him a million carries and cut him when he is 30." What kind of stupid sh*t is this? You reward the players who perform for your franchise. At this point LJ has been performing his part for the team.
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